Interesting

[MaGi kOz]

One of my friends sent this to me... I didn't know what to say of it so I want to see how you people react to it.

note: i didn't write this so don't flame me. flame whoever wrote it, whoever that is.

In light of the many perversions and
jokes we
send to one another for a laugh, this is a
little different: This is not intended to be a
joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you
thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the
Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could
God let something like this happen?" (regarding
the attacks on Sept. 11).

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and
insightful response. She said "I believe God is
deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for
years we've been telling God to get out of our
schools, to get out of our government and to get
out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has
calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give
us His blessing and His protection if we demand
He leave us alone?"

In light of recent events...terrorists attack,
school shootings, etc. I think it started when
Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her
body found recently) complained she didn't want
prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible
in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not
kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your
neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank
our children when they misbehave because their
little personalities would be warped and we
might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son
committed suicide). We said an expert should
know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Then someone said teachers and principals better
not discipline our children when they misbehave.
The school administrators said no faculty member
in this school better touch a student when they
misbehave because we don't want any bad
publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued
(there's a big difference between disciplining,
touching, beating, smacking, humiliating,
kicking, etc.). And we said OK.

Then someone said, let's let our daughters have
abortions if they want, and they won't even have
to tell their parents. And we said OK.

Then some wise school board member said, since
boys will be boys and they're going to do it
anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they
want so they can have all the fun they desire,
and we won't have to tell their parents they got
them at school. And we said OK.

Then some of our top elected officials said it
doesn't matter what we do in private as long as
we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it
doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the
President, does in private as long as I have a
job and the economy is good.

Then someone said let's print magazines with
pictures of nude women and call it wholesome,
down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the
female body. And we said OK.

And then someone else took that appreciation a
step further and published pictures of nude
children and then further again by making them
available on the Internet. And we said OK,
they're entitled to free speech.

Then the entertainment industry said, let's make
TV shows and movies that promote profanity,
violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide,
and satanic themes. And we said it's just
entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody
takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have
no conscience, why they don't know right from
wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill
strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard
enough, we can figure it out...... I think it
has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE
SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God
and then wonder why the world's going to hell.
Funny how we believe what the newspapers say,
but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail
and they spread like wildfire but when you start
sending messages regarding the Lord, people
think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene
articles pass freely through cyberspace, but
public discussion of God is suppressed in the
school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you
will not send it to many on your address list
because you're not sure what they believe, or
what they WILL think of you for sending it.
Funny how we can be more worried about what
other people think of us than what God thinks of
us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not
then just discard it... no one will know you
did. But, if you discard this thought process,
don't sit back and complain about what bad shape
the world is in!

[Jason]

So the gist of that boils down to:

Humanity is a a festering shithole.

I agree.

[TelC@t]

I bet Anne Graham couldn't do 1st year college calculus.

Was she serious about if we pray everyday, let parents beat children, force women to give unwanted babies, then 9/11 would not have happened?



Gullible idiot ...

[King Missile]

you should be banned to hell for that sig...

and i honestly do not see the skills in being able to ctrl-c ctrl-v

[froedrick]

I love how it says, "Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says."

Well my newspaper yesterday told me that someone from my comunity died, it told me of the possibility of an upcoming election in my province and it told me about a down and out family. Well the person who died had a wake down the road from me, the election stuff has been on the news interviews with the candidates, and this down and out family gave an interview to the paper.

The bible tells me about jesus walking on water, it tells me about jesus healing people, it tells me about jesus coming back to life.
Yet there is no evidence, so when I ask people how am i supposed to believe this, they tell me you must have 'faith'. Well I lack faith because I honestly see the bible as a way to control people and such and plus why should i have faith in a society that is so corrupt anyways

[Mr. Peanuts]

humans will always fail.

how can she blame it on God, when it is said that he may not change free will?

[geekbot]

[sarcasm]Oh, yay, another God thread![/sarcasm]

1) Don't believe emails you are forwarded. Snopes entry

Ms. Lotz did say, in effect, that we cannot simultaneously reject God in our daily lives yet still expect His protection when disaster strikes, but now a paraphrase of one response she made in the course of a longer interview has been offered as a direct quote, and all the details about the context in which she made the remark have been gotten wrong.

2) Mr Peanuts, are you saying Christians believe God cannot change free will? I believe God CAN change free will. I don't know what Anne Graham believes.

3) Don't know if she can do math either, but she is:

daughter of Billy and Ruth Graham, is the President and Executive Director of AnGeL Ministries, a non- profit organization offering Christian outreach. Anne has spoken on all seven continents in more than twenty foreign countries, proclaiming the word of God at seminaries, colleges, conferences and revivals. She has written many other books, including The Vision of His Glory, God's Story, Just Give Me Jesus, My Heart's Cry, and Heaven. Anne and her husband, Daniel, reside in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Found here

EDIT: On the other hand, glad to see MaGi kOz starting an intelligent thread.

[ÆNIMA]

The seperation of Church and State is for our good. It allows us freedom of religion, government institutions don't have the right to impose any religious beliefs on anyone. That's why they're not in our schools. Imagine if that lady had grown up in a town where Church and State were together - In America-, so God was in the schools, but the majority of the people in the school's God was Allah, and they believed strongly in Jihad. And they imposed their beliefs on her...where's her argument then? Or even if they were satanists...

She seems to have the idea that everyone believes in the same god, and the government's trying to ban that god, when really...it's doing the best thing for us.

What if the laws followed strictly with the 10 commandments, would you like to get picked up by the cops for lying? Or by believing in another god?

I support removal of prayer in the public schools, however the minute of silence is (in my belief) a good idea. I supported the removal of the 10 Commandments in that court of law, those laws are not the ones the government follow, by American Constitution we can believe in any god or no god, let freedom ring.

However I do oppose the banning of the Pledge of Allegiance from government institutions because of "one nation, under god" that's just asinine. If they ban that, they should change all the American currency as well...what politician's going to bring that to Congress?

[Mayo Inc.]

Originally posted by TelC@t
I bet Anne Graham couldn't do 1st year college calculus.

what the hell does this have to do with anything? She doesn't claim that her math skills are the grounds for her reasoning, I know a lot of people who can't do first year calculus but are still very very intelligent, and some who can, but are complete idiots.

A person's value is not measured in their knowledge.

[froedrick]

I bet telcat can't do it either anyways.

[sixtoo]

how depressing of a thing to be said over television. I wonder if she felt that by saying all that she would give people modivation to go seek god? that now in all reality shes sitting back at her home with her feet spread high in the air thinking about how smart she was to say such things? however right she is on some issues, she will forever be wrong in others.

[Galleleo]

K, let me go and be stupid here:

WHO THE FUCK IS ANNE GRAHAM AND WHO THE FUCK IS BILLY GRAHAM.

And what if you dont believe in god?