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  • #16
    Most accurately, this thread is comparing what Bush did to start the war was completely propaganda. The implications of the quote by Goering (generally considered the master of propaganda) shows that with the right words, the people in any nation, democratic or not can be led to do anything. With the external threat of war, any domestic policy can be pushed through as people will support their leaders.

    The best example would be how Bush managed to push through a ton of laws with little notice (in terms of active coverage of all the facts) with the civil liberty-taking Patriot Act, swift arrests and border checks, major tax cuts for the wealthy in time of massive deficit (all justified because "the war on terror took more money than we thought it would"), laxing of major enviromental laws, and other conservative agendas which although were in Bush's specific policy, would not have passed so easily without the war taking everyone's attention away.

    As for the war itself, the American people were more or less tricked by the Bush adminstration that they were fighting a war of necessity (terrorists, WMD) rather than a war of choice. which Iraq was. Whether the war of choice was good or not, doens't turn away from the fact that it likely would not have happened (as wars of choice of that magnitude rately have support in democracies) as there would not have been enough support for it or at least it would of been much tougher to push through.

    All in all, taking the advice of the master of propaganda (I'm sure Carl Rove knows all about Goering if Bush doesn't), the Bush adminstration managed to push their entire list of policies with very little opposition in both the public and the government sides.

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    • #17



      i made a shirt with that on it and wore it to school... alot of people didn't like it. this one kid actually threatened to kill me because of it. but, i really don't like bush. and my principal was like "it's not against any rules" and then he called my house, after school, and was like "because there was a swastika on it, it's against the rules" or some shit... it was so gay, because he didn't make sense.
      1: Pasta <ER>> lol we are gona win this bd talking about porn on our squadchat


      1:EpicLi <ZH>> but should i trust you, you are mean to the ppl
      1:trashed> wha
      1:EpicLi <ZH>> you will hack into my computer and steal my child porn
      1:trashed> i am a very nice person actually.
      1:trashed> i do not steal other's child porn
      1:trashed> i download my own

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      1:turmio> i was fucking certain that the first time she would touch me i would come

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      • #18
        i hope this doesn't turn into a discussion about swastikas again...yes we know it wasn't originally a hate symbol, blah blah blah

        thing is, Bush doesn't seem to be bent on world domination and genocide...where's your connection between the two?
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        • #19
          they're both blood-thirsty power-fiends responsible for the deaths of people that bring their men to forign areas
          1: Pasta <ER>> lol we are gona win this bd talking about porn on our squadchat


          1:EpicLi <ZH>> but should i trust you, you are mean to the ppl
          1:trashed> wha
          1:EpicLi <ZH>> you will hack into my computer and steal my child porn
          1:trashed> i am a very nice person actually.
          1:trashed> i do not steal other's child porn
          1:trashed> i download my own

          sigpic




          1:turmio> i was fucking certain that the first time she would touch me i would come

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          • #20
            Bush relies heavily on his administration, while at least Hitler had some of his own ideas (albeit sick and twisted). Fact of the matter is, Hitler was a smarter man and better leader than Bush can ever hope to be ( sad to say I know). I'm not praising Hitler or anything, I'm just saying that Bush really isn't on the same level. It's like he is trying to be, but doesn't really have the intelligence to get there.
            My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.

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            • #21
              i don't think bush is trying to be as powerful as hitler, i think he's trying to do what's best for the country

              remember, he has access to intelligence than many other people, he knows things we don't, and his decisions....which of course are influenced by his cabinet are probably very wise and thought out decisions

              they know more than we do, judge lightly
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              • #22
                Actually, Hitler really wasn't all that bright. A large reason Germany lost WWII was because of his dumbass war decisions he made because he refused to listen to anyone who didn't say something like "Russia... yeah we'll crush em. Stalingrad? No problem" He was more charismatic than cunning. Goebbels was the one with a lot of the "ideas"

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                • #23
                  Either way -

                  Hitler > Bush

                  not

                  Hitler = Bush

                  Intellectually that is. I mean really, can anyone give me 3 examples of Bush doing smart things/decisions that didn't involve his cabinet telling him what to do?
                  My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.

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                  • #24
                    taking over the world is ez.
                    TelCat> i am a slut not a hoe
                    TelCat> hoes get paid :(
                    TelCat> i dont

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                    • #25
                      LOL, it's all about raping other countries for their resources.

                      Same thing, different era, different disguise.
                      Wont die, no surrender 2

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                      • #26
                        Rommel was brilliant
                        7:Randedl> afk, putting on makeup
                        1:Rough> is radiation an element?
                        8:Rasta> i see fro as bein one of those guys on campus singing to girls tryin to get in their pants $ ez
                        Broly> your voice is like a instant orgasm froe
                        Piston> I own in belim
                        6: P H> i fucked a dude in the ass once

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sleepy Weasel
                          Actually, Hitler really wasn't all that bright. A large reason Germany lost WWII was because of his dumbass war decisions he made because he refused to listen to anyone who didn't say something like "Russia... yeah we'll crush em. Stalingrad? No problem" He was more charismatic than cunning. Goebbels was the one with a lot of the "ideas"
                          Have you noticed that after the big assassination atempt against Hitler (the briefcase bomb) that the War started going down hill for him? I don't have any sources, word of mouth primarily...but it sounds feasable.
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                          • #28
                            you guys act like Bush is the first politician to ever try to cooerce the public opinion. Tell me you aren't that stupid. It is called politics learn how it works. Little addons to bills are done all the time.
                            To all the virgins, Thanks for nothing
                            brookus> my grandmother died when she heard people were using numbers in their names in online games.. it was too much for her little heart

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Epinephrine
                              The implications of the quote by Goering (generally considered the master of propaganda)
                              I think you mean Goebbels.
                              Jesus Christ on a pogo stick

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                              • #30
                                HEY GUSY BUSH BASHING IS HIP AND COOL NOW LETS ALL DO IT

                                DOTHEFANDANGO IS SHITING HIMSELF, HE'S LIKE YOUR NEW KING SHIT SINCE HE'S BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2000.

                                WOOT FOR COMMIE HIPPIES>
                                sage

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