Is love an action or a feeling?

[Bioture]

Just something that was brought up in Philosophy class today...

True love is not a feeling. It is an action. mental "love" is nothing more than lust for sex, therefore, it is an illusion.

agree disagree?

[Bioture]

my friend sheds more light on the issue:

monkeydisorder: see, look at christians
Hengyi84: mental "love" is an illusion.
monkeydisorder: they don't bang people left and right like those without love, but they need love to get a mate
monkeydisorder: DUH
monkeydisorder: why do you think that horn balls don't love?
Hengyi84: what are you talking about.
monkeydisorder: see, people who bang all the time don't love
monkeydisorder: people who don't bang all the time do, so they eventually can
monkeydisorder: see, love is basically like hunger pangs
monkeydisorder: if you eat all thew time, you don't get them, but if you don't, you will
monkeydisorder: and the lkonger you don't eat, the more painful the hunger pangs get
monkeydisorder: I'm sorry, I meant "the stronger the hunger pangs get"
Hengyi84: love is not a feeling.
monkeydisorder: is being hungry a feeling? no
Hengyi84: we feel love because of our need for contentment.
Hengyi84: love is completely an action
Hengyi84: example : a soldier takes a bullet for his buddy
monkeydisorder: look at what I wrote
Hengyi84: : a husband spends 20 hours just to save his wife 1 hour of time
monkeydisorder: it's comprable to hunger
Hengyi84: the mother who spends all night with a sick child
monkeydisorder: love=the hunger of the genitalia
Hengyi84: the lover, who studies karma sutra only to realize that his penis isnt long enough for most of the maneuvers
monkeydisorder: HAHA
monkeydisorder: that is true, sometimes
Hengyi84: ah the story of my life

[Bluedandy]

Re: Is love an action or a feeling?

Originally posted by Bioture

mental "love" is nothing more than lust for sex...

What the fuck?

[Liquid Blue]

Mental love isn't just a lust for sex, unless your brain is in your dick. If you truly love someone, sex won't be the only factor (and definately not the biggest) factor in your relationship. It would just be a bonus, like the toys in happy meals. True love is when you deeply care about the person and don't just see that person as an object of lust. People that confuse lust with love only do so because they have never been in love.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by Liquid Blue
If you truly love someone, sex won't be the only factor (and definately not the biggest) factor in your relationship.

This is some naive pansy shit. If the sex isn't there, it's going to undermine everything else in the relationship. Sure, for awhile you can say "oh, I love you even if we never have sex" but eventually the bitterness will grow...

as for love.. it's definitely a feeling because you feel love for people besides your mate. What about your best friend? you don't love him? You don't feel love for your dad?

[stark]

Originally posted by Bioture
True love is not a feeling. It is an action. mental "love" is nothing more than lust for sex, therefore, it is an illusion.

Originally posted by bloodzombie
What about your best friend? you don't love him? You don't feel love for your dad?

bz, you dog, you.



anyways, yeah i don't think love has anything to do with sex. sure, hormone-enriched guys will want sex(and girls, too), but when true love comes, it's not all about the poon, so they're not lusting for sex. like lb said about the happy meals... except, even without the toy, you'd still be satisfied with the meal (although you like the toys alot)

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by stark
anyways, yeah i don't think love has anything to do with sex. sure, hormone-enriched guys will want sex(and girls, too), but when true love comes, it's not all about the poon, so they're not lusting for sex. like lb said about the happy meals... except, even without the toy, you'd still be satisfied with the meal (although you like the toys alot)

Nah, this is wrong. When you're in love, you'll lust for the sex just as much, if not more. It's in a guys nature to need sex in order to be satisfied. Say all the nice pretty flowery shit you want about how satisfying love is, without sex, it's not going to make a guy happy.

[ÆNIMA]

explain happily married couples in their 80s and 90s that aren't having sex


I think it's safe to say that we all have our own idea about love, that it's improper to tell another person whether he or she is feeling love. It's different for everybody, so each individual person can come up with their own conclusions about their own types of love. But for people to speculate about love as if everyone felt it the same way is silly. Your ideas about love might apply only to you.

On a pure phisiological stand point, sex is the underlying drive for everybody's actions and emotions. That in order to have sex (and therefore reproduce), the guy needs to get the girl to think he's superior. Often a girl will let her emotions decide that for her, once that's in place...it's a feeling and she becomes horny jus like the guy. That's all that sex (the action thereof) is really about, 2 horny people satisfying their lusts, but the reasons that led up to that experience may differ.

But still, I've seen nothing that explains elderly couples who are truely happily married and aren't getting any sexual gratification.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by ÆNIMA
explain happily married couples in their 80s and 90s that aren't having sex

that's just because they can't, or even if they can, it's not worth the trouble anymore. I'm talking about 2 relatively healthy young people. I was kinda trying direct my reply towards a target audience and didn't really think it was necessary to address 90 year olds. Maybe some young people don't have much drive, they need to find a person whose sex drive is similar to theirs, it's part of compatibility.

Of course those 90 year olds could be in love without having sex, their drive is gone and they keep each other company until they die, that's great for them to have someone, but when you're 23 and horny as hell, being in love isn't going to be satisfying with no sex. If you're a horny person, you can't just suppress it.

[geekbot]

Psych class says love the balance of three things:

        Passion
          /\
         /  \
Intimacy ---- Commitment

[PaulOakenfold]

What I do, is try not to think about it that much. Sure I want my wife sexually, but it's not to the point where I can't be with her without wanting her. I really had psych and phillosphy because it makes me think about things too hard that I don't want to think about. With some things, I just want to learn them as they come, not worry about the "deeper" meaning. Philosophers don't like to do that, and often can't enjoy the simple pleasures of life.

That's just my "simple man" aproach to questions like these.

[Liquid Blue]

Originally posted by bloodzombie
This is some naive pansy shit. If the sex isn't there, it's going to undermine everything else in the relationship.

It's not pansy shit to not have sex as the main factor in your relationship. I didn't talk about if the sex wasn't there, because i do believe you need sex to keep a relationship healthy. I was just saying that won't be the main reason you are with your significant other if you truly love them.

Sure, for awhile you can say "oh, I love you even if we never have sex" but eventually the bitterness will grow...

That's because not only does sex fufill the primal need for sexual satisfaction, but a degree of intimacy also comes with having sex with your loved one. When that goes away, the relationship seems to grow colder and distant, and the feeling of intimacy is lost. Hence why alot of relationships go down the drain when the sex life is gone.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by Liquid Blue
Hence why alot of relationships go down the drain when the sex life is gone.

So if you need sex to keep the relationship alive, what could be more important than that? A love for sunsets, movies, walks on the beach? You can be compatible with someone in every other way, but if their sex drive isn't somewhere in the vicinity of yours, it's gonna cause trouble unless one person wants to just repress what they're feeling, and if that's the case, they'd be happier elsewhere.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by PaulOakenfold
not worry about the "deeper" meaning. Philosophers don't like to do that, and often can't enjoy the simple pleasures of life.

That's just my "simple man" aproach to questions like these.

But maybe if you get in touch with your feelings, and get to know yourself a little better, you could be a lot happier in the long run.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm pretty fucking far from "inner peace" or whatever people want to strive for. I don't even like my job (which is why I've been posting here so much.. fucking boring here). I just find psychology interesting.

[Liquid Blue]

It's not the most important factor, as I stated before. It's one of the main factors, and usually the determining factor in a break-up. I really see no point in continuing to try and express this, because as Aenima said earlier, everyone has a different perception on what love is/the main factors of love.