Power-drunk mods

[Ezor]

I have been wrongly banned from Trench Wars. The reason given was racism, but I said nothing remotely racist following a warning. My final statement was "ban me then", which I was told is not a legal reason to ban. I requested a ban from BAM and Da Farmer! a couple of nights ago and they told me a ban on myself could not be requested; that I had to do something illegal to get banned. They then informed me of the banning procedure. Basically, a warning, and if the offense continues a ban is issued. So unless "ban me then" suddenly became a racist statement, I don't feel this ban should have any right to stay. I admit that I do say some off-color things, and the mods finally caught me tonight. I digress, though. My argument is this: if a ban on myself can't be requested, and I did nothing wrong after a mod warning (I didn't say ANYTHING other than "ban me then", which is a request in itself), then I feel this ban was wrongly issued and should be lifted.

On a side note: Erathia is a power-drunk cunt. Fuck you, whore.

Side note #2: I really don't think Oen Izan gives a shit what I say about him. He plays to have fun like I do, and while I considered him a pest at first, it just took me time to realize that he has a similar mindset to me. This also explains why newbs can't get along with me. $$$

[Edit: Update the ban e-mail address. ban@trenchwars.org is broken, just like the brains of 90% of TW's staff.]

[Steady]

well if you said "ban me then", then you deserve to be banned

[Ezor]

Against the rules. That's the point. If it was legal I wouldn't have a problem with this.

[Troll King]

So what DID you do before you said "ban me then"?

I presume, there must have been some situation that caused you to be in position to say that to someone who could ban you. The fact that it was conveniently not mentioned in your complaint cannot reflect on your case very well.

[shiftyeyesdogg]

I think they should at least give a valid reason for banning, or contact the user about to be banned for whatever rules they've violated.

I got banned just because someone accused me of using their account. It was just like this, except I changed some of the names; well, I forgot them, but TrollKing just posted, so:

Me: TrollKing is using my account!
Mods: We don't need no stinkin' evidence!
TrollKing: BANNINATED

[EDIT] There should be a space between "Troll" and "King". [/EDIT]

[Ezor]

I didn't log the incident, but I can reconstruct it pretty accurately from memory.

I left pub 0 to check a couple other arenas. I came back, and something like this went down:

Oen Izan> oh great , its back
Ezor> hey
Ezor> go cook a jew and stfu :P
MODERATOR WARNING: Ezor, racism is an offense punishable by banning. -Erathia
Ezor> ban me then
Disconnected from server

Sounds pretty hollow to me. I can understand if I had said something like "uh oh a mod warning.. Erathia must be a jew, cook her Oen". But "ban me then" seems decent enough, plus it's an insufficient reason for banning. I begged BAM and Farmer to ban me, and they told me they couldn't unless I teamkilled or did something else illegal. So there you have it. Illegal ban. Remove it or I'm going higher up to discuss this. I know you don't want to be demoted to the level of lowly user again, Erathia. Put the power down and stop getting intoxicated.

[Kolar]

Were you warned by Farmer and BAM before? And more to the point were you warned for racism?

[Ezor]

I wasn't legitimiately warned by them for anything. Farmer sent a phony mod warning when I requested my ban a few nights ago. I got warned for teamkilling, and I was using a Terrier. GG. But if memory serves, this is the first racism warning I've gotten.

[Troll King]

Did you have a prior warning in the recent past? If you did then this second warning could bump you up to a ban.

[shiftyeyesdogg]

It's highly debatable if Jews can be considered a race.

[Kolar]

Yea that's probably what happend and if any mishandling of procedures happend on Era's part....posting it on here has made certain that no action will be taken by upper staff. Uhh GG I guess. Email complaints@trenchwars.org and drop the bs, it might get you a few days off the ban.

[Ezor]

No legit warnings in about two weeks. My last one was for teamkilling a newb Jav who took me out. Anyway, the length of the ban is insignificant. Whether or not it's lifted before then, I'll be back at 6:30 tomorrow night and I can guarantee you I will be as colorful as ever with my remarks and demeanor. A ban by a power-tripper doesn't stop Ezor. Nothing stops Ezor. GG Erathia, you're in a power stupor.

And btw, shifty, you're right. Jews aren't a race. The dictionary defines a Jew as "an adherent of Judaism as a religion". And I'll be damned if TW is going to turn into ground zero for a religious war. Racism is one thing, anti-Semitism is another. If I had a dollar for every time someone insulted my religion and got away with it, I'd be able to retire. Defending one religion and ignoring the bashing of another seems pretty ridiculous. But hey, it's Trench Wars. What's NOT ridiculous around here?

[Troll King]

Originally posted by shiftyeyesdogg
It's highly debatable if Jews can be considered a race.

I'm sorry, but even if you truly believed this, how would this make things any less wrong?

[shiftyeyesdogg]

Because he was banned on the grounds of racism, which is rather shaky wording.

I'm sure you've heard about the gay marriage thing being uncertain because there was a semicolon where it wasn't intended to be, which changed the meaning for the entire thing.

Trench Wars is ridiculous. Check my post on Veloce's board.

[Troll King]

Dude, that's like saying "I can't be guilty of murder because I thought of my victim as being an animal rather than as a human being."