Basing bug

[RoDNeY]

oooooooooo Hey theres like a bug thing or whatever.. i just kinda realized, ino im nub butm u ever see ppl just ram right thru mines in pub? or base? its cuz they dont see them, Grab a friend and go to ?go art have him lay bunches of mines in one spot that would be sure to kill, remember where he put them then do ?go art go back to that spot, u see no mines and u can ram them losing no nrg as you please

[Overburn]

what? probably because mines aren't 1 hit kills (atleast I think).

[Troll King]

It's not a bug, per se.


What happens is that when you first enter an arena any mines that were present before you came in do not register on your computer. So whenever people see someone lagging through a bunch of mines, that's usually what happens. Some people try to abuse this feature by exiting and reentering an arena just ram through a bunch of mines, but it's still much easier just to change into a shark and repel them anyway, so you won't see that very often.

I think someone mentioned to me once that it wasn't a bug but was intentionally included, but I don't remember if I was told why.

[Overburn]

I know another bug, but Im sure it was intentionally done.
Im not gonna tell becasue I dont want everyone doing it.

[Pan]

I never really cared about this bug as much as some of the others.

[Adman]

if you fly at a mine and warp or attach before you hit it, on other people's scren it looks like there is no mine to them. And it's still there for you, so let them ram it and then you fly in after

[Ewan]

what? probably because mines aren't 1 hit kills (atleast I think).

They are.

And what's this bug you speak of?

[Overburn]

I didnt know! :eek:

Im not telling you how to use the bug, but it involes changing the tilesets of the level you are in. (eg, thieves guild in twcity = owned in 10 seconds)

[Stabwound]

It's not really a "basing" issue. Maybe a pub issue. In 8vs8 basing, there is a lagout time of 15 seconds, which pretty much nullifies any practical use you would get out of this "'exploit".

[AcidBomber]

if you fly at a mine and warp or attach before you hit it, on other people's scren it looks like there is no mine to them. And it's still there for you, so let them ram it and then you fly in after

LOL....that happens a lot with me...i go near a mine, attachs to the terr before i hit. then some guy beside me goes through it then i follow lol

[cundor]

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[Dameon Angell]

This is definately a pub basing exploit that can be used when a team doesn't have a shark, and yes, it's illegal to do if spotted. If you look at the rules at A1 of the ?go (public arena)s it says that exploting bugs, such as the mines disappearing, is illegal.

[Troll King]

That's true, but I don't see why anyone would do this. The first problem is that when you leave and then reenter, there's no guarantee that you'll default to the same freq. The other problem is that your teammates won't necessarily know you're doing that, and while you might go through unscathed, the explosions and shrap can still affect your teammates. I know those are two minor problems that are easily fixed by taking your time and maybe warning people first, but with the effort involved, plus the time you take to change arenas and possibly freqs as well, you're better off just changing into a shark and repelling them the old fashioned way. Plus it's fairly easy to defend against this bug anyway; the rest of his team will still be affected by the blast, so that one ship is likely the only one rushing through.

Could someone more familiar with ship settings and/or Continuum settings explain why this "bug" exists? I think someone once mentioned that it was intentionally programmed in, but I don't remember if it was just a theory.

[Verthanthi]

I'm pretty sure I can, tk. I don't know any of this for sure, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

When a weapon goes off, the server doesn't keep track of it. It just gets sent to everyone else in the arena. Each client is then in charge of keeping track of bullets, mines, and bombs. When someone enters the arena, the server doesn't even have the bullet data to provide them. So they just get a clean slate.