Elim arena with >200 ping cap

[Zloy]

Hey TW people, didn't see some of you for a while.
I was out of the game for about five months, and when i come back in the middle of september i see some changes about squads, as well as improvements to the game as nice working scoreboards in twd matches and active ?go wbduel. So i guess TW staff is busy with things. But, there is one thing that didn't change, and it's problem of skill vs lag in elim. Everyone who plays wb here probably saw laggy players win by eats and invisible or way too fast to be normal shots. Skill vs lag. Why don't put a stop to it once and for all, at least in elim, where people hone their wb skills. (lag is also annoying for javs, but for wb fights one hit one kill is just deciding)

This problem shouldn't be ignored anymore.
TW needs a non laggy elim arena.
Cap it at 200 ping, as they capped the game during non-lag deathmatches hosted by wb'er mods. Cap it at 0.2 -0.3 ploss, and see skill come back to elim. Seriously. Why not give it a try?

[InCure.]

Cap it at 200 ping, as they capped the game during non-lag deathmatches hosted by wb'er mods. Cap it at 0.2 -0.3 ploss, and see skill come back to elim. Seriously. Why not give it a try?

0.2 - -0.1 would be even better

[RaCka]

Staffers have been making good updates as well as not so good ones. There are some updates that they are just wasting their time on. For example, people thought it would be a good idea for spidduels, that worked for about a day or so.

but anyways, I think this is a great idea for elim. Many newbs play in elim and think they're good because of their lag, their invis bullets and lag rushes. That shows no skills.. I agree with making a new arena for non-laggots to play in with each other. :up:

[Zloy]

0.2 - -0.1 would be even better

Hm, stricter elim would be with 150 ping and 0.1 ploss caps, but it would suffer from lack of players greatly IMHO. I would still vote for it though, any action vs lag is good.

[Connection]

what about us?

The fact is that there will be always lag in Internet Games....you cant change that. Another fact is that if ppl lives far away from the server....and they might not have a good connection to get 10ms ping and they might get 300-400ms ping.

But yes, those limits should be much more harder... like 400ms ping limit and 1%-1.5% packetloss limit...or maybe even bigger packetloss limit.

And dont blame lag if you get owned...sometimes lag gives little extra help but not all the time. If you dont know how to dodge...then learn

I can say that i lag but that doesnt give me much advance when i'm playing elim and ppl eating all my bullets

AND PUT GREENS BACK TO ELIM! AND DOCK STOP RUINING LANCS!

Thank You.

[tahkis]

Did you say skill in elim? Hahahaha. Ty for your time.

[Jones]

Even with a decent connection in finland it's possible that you can't make it in to 150 ms games.

[1ight]

Even with a decent connection in finland it's possible that you can't make it in to 150 ms games.

Don't tell lies.. I have 120 ms all the time.

I find this thread similar to Lain's thread, http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=12870

And I still think that it would make other people not able to play. And I think its kinda whiny to have lag restrictions. But sure, it can be very annoying when people eat etc. As for the greens, I think that was the best idea ever, now it much more fun to just trust you on yourself, instead of fetching greens for 2x shots. I mean some people just intend to shot random, take green, shot random again.

I know how annoying it can be with laggers, like this other day, lappos, lag, ?go base, nme shark, I'm like "Woa! wtf! 5 hits!", ;lappos you are kinda laggy.

I think it hase been ages since I last time playied elim, and I bet its still as boring as ever. But I must admit, it might be fun for like, some rounds once in awhile.

If you find any typos, please don't sniff beans up your nose, be reasonable, tell me what I spelled wrong, so that I could improve myself.

[Crossfirez]

Dude I can't get my ms under 140.

[Awesome]

zloy i agree with you

i still suggest max 200 ms, 1.0% C2S, 1.0% S2C

[Jones]

Don't tell lies.. I have 120 ms all the time.

I find this thread similar to Lain's thread, http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=12870

And I still think that it would make other people not able to play. And I think its kinda whiny to have lag restrictions. But sure, it can be very annoying when people eat etc. As for the greens, I think that was the best idea ever, now it much more fun to just trust you on yourself, instead of fetching greens for 2x shots. I mean some people just intend to shot random, take green, shot random again.

I know how annoying it can be with laggers, like this other day, lappos, lag, ?go base, nme shark, I'm like "Woa! wtf! 5 hits!", ;lappos you are kinda laggy.

I think it hase been ages since I last time playied elim, and I bet its still as boring as ever. But I must admit, it might be fun for like, some rounds once in awhile.

If you find any typos, please don't sniff beans up your nose, be reasonable, tell me what I spelled wrong, so that I could improve myself.

256kbit connections are pretty decent in my oppinion. When I had that my current ping was almost never below 160. Still 10 ms isnt much but it's enough. I agree that you can get lower, I'm using 1mbit connection now and have 140 ms.
Edit: Just noticed in a log that I actually had 150 ms once with 256.

[Paveo]

yep

zloy i agree with you

i still suggest max 200 ms, 1.0% C2S, 1.0% S2C

I second that

[1ight]

256kbit connections are pretty decent in my oppinion. When I had that my current ping was almost never below 160. Still 10 ms isnt much but it's enough. I agree that you can get lower, I'm using 1mbit connection now and have 140 ms.
Edit: Just noticed in a log that I actually had 150 ms once with 256.

Well your connection just suck then, j/k
I'm using a 512kbit, and I'm getting 120 ms. 256kbit is so 90's... 512kbit is decent.. ^^

[Shas'la T'au Kais]

Can I just point out that in some areas people can't get better connections?

[Izor]

Its useless. In TWL, you dont have a >200 ping cap so you're going to have to play laggers sometime. 200 ms isnt really an advantage anyway. The only lag I can see as beneficial is ploss where people keep jumping, assuming they have used it for a while and know how to use it.