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  • Spawn Idea

    You know how in Tourny, when you die, you automatically spawn in and out of the starting triangle when you die? WHy dont we just instate that in Division Dueling?

    I mean it wouldn't eliminate spawns, but it would sure as hell decrease them.

    And then there are going to be the ones who say "Well there are going to be people camping in front of the spawn point."
    Well shouldn't it be just as easy to program a bot (like Sika's TournyBot) to detect a spawn?

    Just an idea, commence with the shooting down.

  • #2
    hmmm... h34r:
    AKA Shaun
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    • #3
      You control the middle 4 squares of the map grid, you control the flow and the pacing of the game. If you eliminate that, you eliminate the natural flow of the battle itself. It'll hurt more than help.
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      • #4
        I guess I have to be the one to say that spawning is a strategic part of the teamplay involved in TWDD. While piloting and teaming are factors in the game, so is controlling the spawn zone. If you get spawned in a TWDD it usually means that the other team just did a better job of controlling the spawn zone. The only other explanation other than "Maybe you just suck" I can think of is either you didn't think about dodging before shooting or you just got unlucky spawning on top of a bullet or an opponent's ship. Any distance over about 2 inches when you spawn gives you a good chance of dodging and even killing your opponent if you are on top of things. A good player expects the spawn and adjusts for it. All this to say, simply, it's a part of the game. If you cut down on spawns, then you need to change a myriad of other things, like game duration. Believe it or not the fast-paced nature of the game would be a little less fast-paced... more of a broken competition, if you take out the direct insertion after dying. Instead of half an hour or whatever the limit is now, we're now adding another 5 seconds or so onto someone's death (x98 = close to 10 minutes more) and giving them an advantage over anyone who happens to be close to where they spawn at. Sika's bot can prevent people from from being spawned after they die, but once the person pops up during that window that you can't shoot them they CAN shoot you. Plus, let's face it, when it comes down to it, in a game with 8-10 players like TWDD, spawns don't make up a huge part of a team's losses. Plus, the team who can take the territory deserves the spoils, do they not?

        /done rambling
        -Dave

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        • #5
          Capital idea, what what.
          Gaian Nakie Day

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          • #6
            He who is without sin, cast the first stone...

            If you've never spawned before, and you always get spawned back, I can see your need for consern. But, for the average player, you should be used to this by now, and like Foreign said, you should have already evolved your playing style and adjusted.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Torn Wing
              like Sika's TournyBot
              he got some help from a real botmaker to make that tourny bot.
              Last edited by Due; 11-24-2004, 06:22 AM.
              Originally posted by Kolar
              My reaction:

              ;1;Holy Shit
              ;1;Al Qaeda took care of method for us

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              • #8
                like Foreign said, if u controle the spawn area u are most likely the winner of that round.
                Originally posted by Kolar
                My reaction:

                ;1;Holy Shit
                ;1;Al Qaeda took care of method for us

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dameon Angell
                  He who is without sin, cast the first stone...
                  ooh Quoting the bible now? very sophisticated ^-^

                  even if you did quote it slightly wrong :P
                  STARKITTY
                  A White Mage


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                  • #10
                    yeah, because the system set up to detect spawns in ?go tourny actually WORKS

                    if i see one more thread in which somebody deifies that shithole of an arena, i'm going to roll over, dead

                    EDIT: yeah, i know i play it all the time, fuck off
                    Originally posted by Ward
                    OK.. ur retarded case closed

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                    • #11
                      when u spawn u should get a shield that lasts like 1.5 seconds and no nrg to shoot others...
                      - RawZ

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                      • #12
                        I already said that in another thread.

                        Edit: Found it
                        Here it is!
                        Last edited by Twerp; 11-24-2004, 09:21 PM.

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