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  • Mods need to be using aliases to catch cheaters, and they need to hurry up about it.

    I believe Rudy mentioned in the cheating thread in the TW sub-forum that a plan such as this is in the works. You need to be implementing it faster. I'm playing in javs today, and a player is blatantly using the standby on his cable modem to blink in and out and avoid certain death after certain death. The guy was a real moron about it, practically warping from one location to another and plenty of people saw it. I did a ?cheater call, and slowly (as is usually the case) a moderator came strolling in. The very SECOND the moderator entered the arena, said player went into spec. Minutes later he returned to playing and not once did he blink in and out. It was painfully obvious he recognized the mod and cut the shit to avoid getting caught.

    The police don't stand up in the middle of an undercover sting and say, "HEY CROOKS, WE'RE ACTUALLY THE PO-PO'S AND WE'S COMIN' TO GIT YA!" The exact same principle applies here. Cheaters may be dickheads, but they're not stupid, at least not so stupid as to continue cheating right in front of a moderator.

    How hard is it to establish a procedure whereby all moderators are required to keep secret aliases with which to scout out potential cheaters? You don't even have to dish out powers on multiple names. They are on their "powered" (if you will) staff name when they see the in-coming call. They switch to a secret alias. They watch the cheater and catch him/her red-handed. They return to their "powered" name and ban the little fucker.

    It's such a simple idea, so simple it's common sense. I know there are a very select few moderators out there who already do this. Everyone should be required to in all cases, no matter the circumstances.
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  • #2
    we do that.. however, its hard to watch real cheaters with a name that doesnt have any powers. Yes, visual aspect plays a major role, but things such as watching greens and damages are also important. Regular-non-powered names dont allow staffers to see how much damage the player took and how much energy he/she has left.
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    • #3
      then just make 1-3 names that can be used as aliases that have staff powers that all the staffers can keep on their players list with the password being the staff password, and then just use those so that ppl dont catch on if its just 1 name
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      • #4
        Yeah, so I forgot about the CE'ing wankshafts that force you to watch damage and greens. Rodney's idea is just fine to counteract that though. The bottom line is, be a little more sly.
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        • #5
          Or have Pure_Luck or someone step down and let Jason take over


          seriously, he's the only one with good ideas

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          • #6
            lol anyone seen ISRAELI F15-I ACE in elim? he cheats like crazy, and i cant believe he isnt banned yet! He basically induces a spike every time someone is about to hit him from close range and eats the shot. The next thing you know is he's behind you shootin you in the ass, and there's nothin u can do about it. I've been a victim of that numerous times, and whenever I called ?help it was ignored. I'm sure there's other players who can agree with me.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by hannon
              Or have Pure_Luck or someone step down and let Jason take over


              seriously, he's the only one with good ideas
              No thanks!

              I'd like to step in and take some control of and/or help out with TWL, but I'll leave the pain-in-the-ass day to day stuff to someone less likely to make a rash decision such as busting out a Paul Bunyan sized axe and seriously cleaning house.
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              • #8
                Good idea Jason
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ward
                  lol anyone seen ISRAELI F15-I ACE in elim? he cheats like crazy, and i cant believe he isnt banned yet! He basically induces a spike every time someone is about to hit him from close range and eats the shot. The next thing you know is he's behind you shootin you in the ass, and there's nothin u can do about it. I've been a victim of that numerous times, and whenever I called ?help it was ignored. I'm sure there's other players who can agree with me.
                  He got natural lag, I used to make fun of laggy americans with my 10 ms.

                  Just because a newbie like you can't kill a player doesn't necessarily mean that he cheats.

                  It's a great idea Jason, I've seen countless of TK'ers who stops the moment a mod comes into pub to watch after I .?cheater.

                  Finally a good idea.

                  EDIT: To the mods that reads this, keep ignoring Wards help calls.
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                  Nessy> i left for 3 years clean
                  Nessy> came back got on rampage, won twl, #1 in elim for 3 weeks, not even tryin, gg

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                  • #10
                    Good idea Jason but this should have been done for a long time earlier already.

                    But in the end the aliases will be noticed aswell, cause they just visit the arena, watch a little, then leave, then suddenly a warning comes up.

                    Dunno then, good idea mostly.
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                    3:Wax> we play virtually tummysticks
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                    3:i.d.> Oddly, that's close to what I thought it was...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sertifi.
                      Good idea Jason but this should have been done for a long time earlier already.

                      But in the end the aliases will be noticed aswell, cause they just visit the arena, watch a little, then leave, then suddenly a warning comes up.

                      Dunno then, good idea mostly.

                      You obviously would change the aliases on a regular basis....

                      Also if you give some of the alias newbish names like idk "A Scary Flabby" or "look at my boobies". Its going to arouse less suspision. And i would hope if they were watching they would wait a while after leaving the areana (unless nessery) before banning/warning so as not to give away the name.

                      Also of course it would make the cheaters much more wary/paranoid of using cheats as the next person to enter a room could be a mod (or not as the case may be)
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                      • #12
                        Doc I might've typed or announced it wrong but as I said, in the end.

                        Of course the cheaters dont notice the alias immediately, some people dont even have ?enter on on, but off, or ?leave as off.

                        Also when people play they rarely watch the people who are in the arena.

                        However _in_ _the_ _end_ it will be noticed, no matter what.

                        Except if you make like 7 aliases and use them every 7 days.

                        As I said mostly good idea.
                        3:Wax> ard and i snapchat all the time
                        3:Wax> we play virtually tummysticks
                        3:i.d.> da fk is that?
                        3:Ardour> we basically are each others personal psychologist
                        3:Shadowmere> i.d., Wax breaks keyboards playing SubSpace. Best not ask him what anything is.
                        3:Wax> Tummy sticks is the situation, commonly referred to as a game, in which two erect men cuddle closely and face-to-face causing their two erect penises, or sticks, to push upwards between their stomachs, or tummys.
                        3:Wax> Sticks combine with tummys, hence the name "tummy sticks."
                        3:Shadowmere> LOL
                        3:i.d.> Oddly, that's close to what I thought it was...

                        Best> I never cooked a day in my life

                        Deft> beat by a guy who plays ss on his cellphone
                        Shadowmere> Rofl
                        Up in ya !> With his feet
                        Deft> no kidding, redefining l44t
                        Up in ya !> l44t feet
                        Deft> l44t f44t*
                        Up in ya !> Twinkle toes
                        Deft> he had l33t f33t but he practiced

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Doc Flabby
                          You obviously would change the aliases on a regular basis....

                          Also if you give some of the alias newbish names like idk "A Scary Flabby" or "look at my boobies". Its going to arouse less suspision. And i would hope if they were watching they would wait a while after leaving the areana (unless nessery) before banning/warning so as not to give away the name.

                          Also of course it would make the cheaters much more wary/paranoid of using cheats as the next person to enter a room could be a mod (or not as the case may be)
                          The mods don't warn people on the new names, its only to be used when monitoring people, then another mod gives the warn.
                          DuelBot> You have defeated 'nessy' score: (20-11)
                          Nessy> i left for 3 years clean
                          Nessy> came back got on rampage, won twl, #1 in elim for 3 weeks, not even tryin, gg

                          1:King Baba> i know my name is King Baba, but you can call me Poseidon

                          I Luv Cook> I'll double penetrate your ass:/

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                          • #14
                            imagine the deans trying to manage staff with all the aliases the mods have. i think thats one of the reason only smods have powered aliases, and only some mods do
                            1 + 1 = 1

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                            • #15
                              Easily manageable. I could do that for you in a heartbeat.

                              As for another point to make about using your powers. Look at the *tinfo that is another way to see if they are or are not cheating.
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