too many javs

[StarKitty]

should I post this to TWPS?

Yeah but make sure you write it up properly

[Dyers eve]

Your idea Jebu is a fine one indeed. Most things can be put into action fairly easy from what I know about the current bots. I won't limit the wb's, maybe not even the terrs. Cloaker and lev should be banned entirely and maybe a limit between 3 and 5 javs per team. The warps are great, and I also second the scoreboard. Doing this in pub 0 does mean the player limit of the pub should be raised or this should be implentend in 2 public arena's. With that, we could keep 2 base publics with the current settings and the rest of the pubs old school.

[End]

Thumbs up :greedy:

[Mootland Farmer]

Public arenas are not going to have their ships limited because they are a Public arena where everyone gets the chance to play what they want (except for the Levithan in this case). Also the majority of Public players do not want ?go base settings in the arena, is why they choose to play in that arena. A situation that Jebu posted in his screenshot rarely occurs, I know because I play there. Lastly, the Moderators already have a systems which we use to track down teamkillers etc.

[Emaho]

One think could be (if its even possible) to make you get -1 kill, when you teamkill someone. This will demand alot of work tho.

[JeBu]

i knew moot will be against this.

no that's not rare there is always too many javs.

+ ?go base isn't active enought and still with this idea pub would be more relaxing. this would also bring more "veterans" to pub when there is no ?go base going on.

[Apocalypse WOW!]

Why not go the levi route and just say javs can't attach unless they have 20 bounty? Sure they're quick enough to fly up the tube, but defending fr will greatly limit the number of javs and make it harder to play.

[JeBu]

Why not go the levi route and just say javs can't attach unless they have 20 bounty? Sure they're quick enough to fly up the tube, but defending fr will greatly limit the number of javs and make it harder to play.

because idea would be that its closer league style but same time players still could get in which some newbs wont get in go base or twbd and its more than 8v8 + unlimited wbs and lancs and players still could try some stupid things which they cant do in ?go base

[Mootland Farmer]

"i knew moot will be against this." By Jebu

Damn right I would be. Players in public play, because of the freedom of ship, rather than the bordem fest of ?go cramslashcampville.

"no that's not rare there is always too many javs." By Jebu

I suggest you actually spend more than 5 minutes in the Public arena before making judgement. Even right now casually speccing flagroom while writing this, there are one Javelin out of 10 ships. Sure, sometimes there is the odd occasion where there are 5 Javelins? So what, there are bigger issues to deal with, and as I've said Moderators have systems in which we deal with Teamkillers.

"+ ?go base isn't active enought and still with this idea pub would be more relaxing. this would also bring more "veterans" to pub when there is no ?go base going on." By Jebu

The faultering of ?go base is not our problem. When no ?go base is not going on, usually during the afternoon New Zealand time (Europeans just waking up and Americans asleep) that is when Pure Public is at its best. It is simply chaos in that arena, and flagrooms are NOT filled with Javelins.

[Theif of Time]

I'm with Mootland on this one.
I agree that there are too many javs but I don't think restrictions are the way to go.
Restrictions amount to people 'hogging' the restricted spots. So you have to have either no restrictions, or complete (like none of that ship at all)
Restrictions work in ?go base because the caps choose who goes where, and generally the caps know what they're doing. Pubs have no caps.You'll get more people who sit in spec waiting to get in their favourite ship, much like people sit in other arenas waiting to get into pub 0.

I did like Pressure Drops idea of a small attach bounty though. It'll piss people off though, so just a miniscule one... 20 is overkill.

[Scrotal]

Re-insert the lev into pure pub arenas. We will put those javs in their place and dispense some justics....levi style! :grin:

[Hakaku]

We shouldn't all have to ?go base, for some decent fun. Often during the better hours there are too many people playing and it's harder to get picked. The one thing that no one can deny about base is it's super cram & camp (atleast when you're fighting a good team). The second thing about pub is that you can have more than 8 players.
-If you stay in pub 0 long enough, you will notice a minimum of three javs per team most of the time.

With everyone suggestions, I propose these changes :
-Without limiting javs, require them to have atleast 15 bounty before they can attach
-Boot the people that remain in spec for over 3 minutes (to make room for more players who will actually play)
-Change the TK warning to display on the TKer's screen also
-Change the flag-time to 5 minutes

Any other suggestions?

[Edify]

2manyjavs? or....toofewjavs?

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6946/2fewjavs1ab.jpg

i think the limit should not be implemented. not every pub will be filled with all javs in the base, i think.

[Jones]

all right. making an attach bounty wont work because there will still be dozens of javelins in mid-base shooting up and you need 1 shark to defend the entrance. to whoever said along the lines of "freedom of picking their own ship" is an arguement that should not be taken into consideration since you have already taken away the levi. if you even try to tell us that levi is destroying a decent pub-base-game, then i suggest you to watch how much of a basing game becomes when a team is full of javs.
so in conclusion:

Limit javelins (2 / team)
add scoreboard and warping in ear also reset the ships so they cant mine in the other ear
remove levi and weasel
do not add a limit on wbs / lancs because they are good fighting ships

[PH]

^ I don't often agree with him, but this is one of those times.