Upper Staff????

[hannon]

The problem seems to be with the upper staff not really doing anything to improve the zone anymore. This is just my outlook on how things are going judging by forum topics and in game cheating.

Discuss.

[Kolar]

Nope.

I can say right now enough upper staffers who have always been there to help eliminate cheating are leaving but the true problem to all staffers in all zones is not in our organization, communication or effort but in the tools we have through the software for detecting cheating.

For other things; Maps are now getting put up through some considerable effort to reform the system, Bans are issued and taken care of by Rudy every day, Jacklyn, Melo and Shayde all works on keeping events going and keeping ERs alive, Ikrit and TWDev are there to update bots and keep things in order and overall if things need doing they're done.

The three main problems these days we need to focus on are getting TWL going, reforming TWD and other parts of the zone and working on solutions to reducing CE + other cheat use and that is being done behind the scenes. Not everything is so doom and glome around here Hannon.

[hannon]

all right, so its none of the staffers fault? I guess i was wrong

[Kolar]

all right, so its none of the staffers fault? I guess i was wrong

I think some upper staffers don't want to do it anymore but overall the ones who are there always have been up to making the zone better.

The problem with cheating is that it appears there are no current configs or tools that will help us detect it. A visual inspection will be needed until A: Priit updates or gives that responsibility over to another. B: Some work is done on detecting CE using bots, which I have no idea if it can work or not.

An update is needed to make it harder, but not impossible to cheat and everyone knows that has nothing to do with TW Staff but for the things that count in this zone they've done their job.

[Rudy]

Go back five years and all you had was a handful of pubs, one elim arena, and subarenas.

Now you have purebasing pubs, two elims, an automated tournament, wbduel/javduel/base, more subarenas than you can poke a stick at, as well as TWD, the most complex and efficient squad based 3 divisional league in the SSC network.

If you haven't been given enough, by all means submit your TWPS proposals and give us more ideas what you'd like to see. Because apart from event creation, we're getting close to being fresh out of ideas how to please.

[D1st0rt]

Isn't twd up to 4 divisions now?

[Rudy]

Spider's still iffy

[Doc Flabby]

Spider's still iffy

Spider just needs a new map and no random damage.

[Ephemeral]

Go back five years and all you had was a handful of pubs, one elim arena, and subarenas.
Now you have purebasing pubs, two elims, an automated tournament, wbduel/javduel/base, more subarenas than you can poke a stick at, as well as TWD, the most complex and efficient squad based 3 divisional league in the SSC network.
If you haven't been given enough, by all means submit your TWPS proposals and give us more ideas what you'd like to see. Because apart from event creation, we're getting close to being fresh out of ideas how to please.

Perhaps it is time to consider cutting back on the breadth and scope, concentrate on quality not quantity.

[Exalt]

Perhaps it is time to consider cutting back on the breadth and scope, concentrate on quality not quantity.

actually, the problems with TW is that new players do not stay. Not only is it a very old game, but things like public just arnt fun or challenging anymore like it was 5+ years ago, anyone who joined into that would get discouraged... and pure pub is usually full so they cant play it anyway

on top of that priitk is never going to update continuum as we all know, no reason to mention why that matters

in any case, isnt there a position in staff for creative development? if that person can't think of things they should step down and let someone fresh come in with ideas.

And rudy, sorry but TWPS is a full of shit system, and you know it. Don't put 100 roadblocks in front of someone, on top of hours of their time, just to get an idea across that might not even be considered.

[Maurauth]

Qan even admitted than TWPS was there to effectivly discourage ideas and pick and chose how you like, due to all the rules.

[Ephemeral]

LOL
Yes, TWPS is a failure since it makes someone actually think something through, and then, omg, do some work. Down with TWPS!!!!
We want the ability to be able to just whine about shit and then have everyone jump and do it! Not tomorrow. Today.
Pfft.

[Doc Flabby]

actually, the problems with TW is that new players do not stay. Not only is it a very old game, but things like public just arnt fun or challenging anymore like it was 5+ years ago, anyone who joined into that would get discouraged... and pure pub is usually full so they cant play it anyway.

I rember when i started this game (1 and half years ago) i found pub fun. I rember trying to get a good pub score lol . I still play pub now - i like it. I dont think you have the right idea of new players....

on top of that priitk is never going to update continuum as we all know, no reason to mention why that matters.

It matters as without an update continuum is going to die quicker. I estimate it has a current lifespan of 1 year max. (think about what happened when twister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twister_%28cheat%29 appeared

Many long-time players allege that Twister's prevalence almost led to the end of SubSpace.

We face the same problem now with CE.

- i wasnt around but the History says that without continuum - subspace would be no more) If there is not an update - this year will be the last TWL. With an update (that fixes cheat problems and adds some new exciting feature) it would buy us another 2-3 years before needing another one.

Maybe im being too gloomy but i think the situation is serious....

[Exalt]

so basicly doc flabby, dont say exactly what ive already said and try to make it your own....

and all the old players already know whats going on, you explaining that to them doesn't help

and priitk is not going to update continuum, he quit the game long ago

[Doc Flabby]

so basicly doc flabby, dont say exactly what ive already said and try to make it your own....

I havn't. You said pub sucked. I disagreed. You said prikk not gonna update contium. I didnt. i said without update ss will die. Read what you type.

and all the old players already know whats going on, you explaining that to them doesn't help

What about the newer players - who dont know whats going on? Most of the older players dont even play that often.