Distension discussion

[roxxkatt]

it can, because that bug isnt caused by distension

[Zeebu]

it can, because that bug isnt caused by distension

after just visiting the distension arena i have to restart continuum if i want to hear the sound when you collect a green in any other arena

[roxxkatt]

thats a bug in continuum where it applies the lvz gfx, then fails to reapply the default gfx, have you tried visiting other lvz arenas that replace the same things?

[Zeebu]

thats a bug in continuum where it applies the lvz gfx, then fails to reapply the default gfx, have you tried visiting other lvz arenas that replace the same things?

i have no idea why the problem happens nor do i know the solution for it other than restarting continuum. i dont know exactly what lvz gfx are either, so i dont know what other arenas have them.

all im saying is that the noise of my grabbing a green doesnt work anymore after leaving ?go distension

edit: rather what i was going for here... is there a way i can fix this? or, is there a way i can just not download that certain sound that the dist arena has so i can just keep usiong the default?

[Peace_Maker]

i have no idea why the problem happens nor do i know the solution for it other than restarting continuum. i dont know exactly what lvz gfx are either, so i dont know what other arenas have them.

all im saying is that the noise of my grabbing a green doesnt work anymore after leaving ?go distension

edit: rather what i was going for here... is there a way i can fix this? or, is there a way i can just not download that certain sound that the dist arena has so i can just keep usiong the default?

I have never had the problem myself but I understand what cheese is saying. The sound of picking up a green is replaced by another sound in distension apparently. Then when you go back to a regular arena the sound is not changed back. I do not think there is a way to fix it.

[jngy slate]

Now that I think about it I get that same thing too. o.O After Distension the sound of picking up a green is gone. I've been thinking it got changed. >_>

[roxxkatt]

grab a fresh copy of continuum

[roxxkatt]

if u dont want to, esc q, then options, then uncheck 'use optional lvz shit'

[KuNi]

my sound for picking up a green is the same as mario picking up a coin in all the mario games
And now that i check i cant here it anymore
I should take ?go distension out of my auto, or i wont here that coin sound again

[roxxkatt]

have you tried to fix it?

[roxxkatt]

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[Stabwound]

The bitching about "unbalanced" teams is annoying as shit. I agree that it sucks when one team wins 5-minute games over and over, but that hasn't really been happening when I've been there (and if it did, I'd shuffle). If the games are 20-minutes long and one team wins more than the other, how in the world are they unbalanced? There are a few loudmouthed idiots who scream "SHUFFLE TEAMS!!!!!" every time their team loses, even though the game went on for 15-20 minutes. Sorry, but that's not unbalanced; your team is just sucking near the end.

I just don't understand it. In the above post, one team won 66% of the time-- what exactly is your problem with that? I guess people will only be happy when every game ends in a stalemate? Or perhaps teams should just take turns letting the other team win so the wins are split 50/50? :rolleyeso

[Zeebu]

instead of going with wins and losses, can you keep a tally of the RP difference between teams? then if one team starts to pull away alot, swap them around.

[DankNuggets]

While I think it's fine right now (i.e. no need to implement this) I've been thinking of a "point system" for figuring out army strengths:

assign points to an army based on a player's rank/ship combonation. instead of straight rank. Would be done on a different scale for each ship, since a rank 5 and rank 20 jav differ differently than a rank 5 and rank 20 shark.

something like:

rank|0-5|6-15|16-30|31-50|50+
WB  | 5 | 8  | 15  |  ?  | ? 
Jav | 5 | 8  | 12  |  ?  | ?
Spid| 5 | 10 | 20  |  ?  | ?
Levi| 5 | 10 | 18  |  ?  | ?
Terr| 20| 30 | 45  |  ?  | ?
 X  | 5 | 12 | 20  |  ?  | ?
Lanc| 5 | 12 | 25  |  ?  | ?
Shk | 10| 20 | 30  |  ?  | ?

something that would reflect the relative "strength to the team" in regards to the ship's abilities.

obviously this would require someone to have a good knowledge of what ranks certain ships become more powerful than others, and at what point would you say "X rank is worth twice as much as Y rank" or "A ship is worth two B ships"

That way your army's strenght relies on both the ship choices as well as the skill (loosely defined through rank) of the players.

A good counter argument to this though, is that it allows a team to field a really weak line (i.e. no terriers or sharks) and cause avarice because they're too lazy to play the basing ships.



All of that is good and all for giving strength to players, but someone still needs to figure out a way to fix the "well it's 12 v 16 right now, strengths are even based on ranks, but we're getting raped because we're outnumbered" problem. I think if someone's going to tackle this right, they should include the ship types to some degree, as well as reduce the importance of one or two high-ranking ppl in the formula (team with 12 probably has 2-3 really high ranked ppl, who despite having 5x the RP, aren't 5x better players to compensate).

I think Qan tackled this with giving a base rating, then adding to it for each rank. That makes the difference a little better since it doesn't start at zero, but it's still an arithmatic approach when what we ideally would have is a weighted one.

[roxxkatt]

the balance fix is long overdue