Distension discussion

[roxxkatt]

So I heard Cheese saying he was gonna get the leeching upgrade for lanc reduced.

fixed.
15% ---> 5%
anyone who thinks it doesnt need adjustment is mentally challenged irl.

the ban was NOT justified, as it was caused by a bug.
roofing is still being debated as breaking rule 5.
however, consider the ban covering your ops abuse in retribution instead.

the bot kicks you after a ban, standard procedure.
the exodus needs to be finalized.

cthx, youre a troll, go away. noone likes you.

[Ivan]

2. Have weasel. This really isn't that hard, melanoma's been trying for a couple days to get it, and has gotten really close apparently. The key to getting weasel now, is in those mid round soccer games. You can stay at about base level (make sure sketch / epic li / cloak stealth weasel isnt playing) and snipe up / down toward the goal area. I found this racked up a decent amount of kills, between 8-10 per soccer game, with fairly little retaliation from preoccupied soccer players.

4. Without weasel, you better be a really lucky high ranked terr, a really lucky spider, or lizard fuel.

Classic, hope Liz is reading this. $$
One more thing (my suggestion), try to play the first game (one flag game) with 14v14 to get Lanc, you might have a chance since one flag games may end quicker than two flag games.

[soup]

There's always two sides to a story. I don't have anything to gain by sharing mine. But much of your post is what I would call "saving face."
I didn't know the bot would kick you off the server, though. I thought maybe you were d/c'd for ship changes... Qan needs to change that, we can't have bots kicking people off the game (besides arrogant).

It just shows how sad you are.


Sad little fuck.

Aquatiq> you get on your hands and knees and beg, and you can avoid a ban
Aquatiq> you'd do it, too
Aquatiq> distension is too important to lose

[Stabwound]

Pretty sure all Distension ops are staff members. Minus cheese but he isn't an op, he's a tool qan uses as an excuse to slack off.

They are. Besides, all bannings are logged for qan to see, so it's not like people can fuck around and ban whoever they please without reason.

fixed.
15% ---> 5%
anyone who thinks it doesnt need adjustment is mentally challenged irl.

the ban was NOT justified, as it was caused by a bug.
roofing is still being debated as breaking rule 5.
however, consider the ban covering your ops abuse in retribution instead.

the bot kicks you after a ban, standard procedure.
the exodus needs to be finalized.

cthx, youre a troll, go away. noone likes you.

First of all, yes, I was going to suggest leech went from 15% to 5% per level. Does anyone that doesn't play Lancaster think this is unfair? The only two people I've seen vocalize resistance to this idea are two of the people that only play Lanc. Look, I've seen Lancasters take out 7-8 people in a row, one by one, in the flagroom because of the leech. Now, we can only reasonably expect Lanc players to get four levels of leech, but still, that's 60% chance of a full charge per kill. How is that not overpowered? Changing it to 20% sounds a lot more reasonable, no? Hell, even 40% sounds more reasonable.

Also, the bot does NOT kick you after a ban. Check out the cmdBan() function and you'll see there's nothing there that kicks a player. I think it was probably due to ship changes because there was no *kill message from Aqua either.

As far as that whole Dako thing goes, Aqua probably did go a bit overboard with it. I didn't even realize there was a double-prizing bug, but that's obviously something that should be fixed if possible. From what I've been told you were flying around really cautiously and sniping people so you would be able to keep your extra crap which is why Aqua got pissed, and I probably would have too. Anyway, I already talked to Aqua about it, and I'll unban you when I get the chance (which won't be until the 9pm session at the earliest). This goes for everyone: if you somehow get double prizes, or prized stronger bullets than you should have, then fine, consider it a bonus, but please don't push it and try to keep it as long as possible. That's kinda lame...

Anyway, I gotta run, but I'll write more later- particularly on the Lancaster thing.

[TagMor]

While people are being banned for no reason other than personal vendettas, others are being allowed to do whatever the fuck they want..
Pub has been using tac-ops to disadvantage people on his own team, and fuckall has been done.
He continuously warps me out of FR during flagbattles, and even goes so far as, during ballgames, to organise a ship from the opposing team to wait at the warp point and kill me upon arrival.
Its pretty much a form of teamkilling, and can fuck an entire game, yet staff are too busy abusing powers for their own personal agendas.
It's getting beyond rediculous.

The very people who are crying about how important this game is to TW are the ones ruining it for distension players because they have unchecked powers.

Wow kthx must of had a moment of clarity.

[Liquid Blue]

haven't you sworn off distension and this topic like 2 different times already

[dako]

From what I've been told you were flying around really cautiously and sniping people so you would be able to keep your extra crap which is why Aqua got pissed, and I probably would have too. Anyway, I already talked to Aqua about it, and I'll unban you when I get the chance (which won't be until the 9pm session at the earliest).

Two things:

1. I was in a WEASEL. How the hell do I fly around cautiously and snipe in a weasel that cant tank a level 2. I rocketed into aqua as a suicide, she just missed her bullet. Also, it was apparent she was trying to get weasel, as I got a 50% kill streak ender bonus. Personal vendetta.

2. Aqua said she would unban me after the session was over. She did not. Nor did I get unbanned today at the 1PM host, which I sat semi afk in spec the ENTIRE period to see if anyone would come assist me. I am STILL distension banned, and from what I understand, the !unban command is faulty and doesn't work properly, last time qan had to manually do something.

[Viruk]

They are. Besides, all bannings are logged for qan to see, so it's not like people can fuck around and ban whoever they please without reason.

qan should not be wasting his time doing this instead of developing. Even if he did it wouldn't be difficult to log some reason like 'bug abuse' that would stand up to anything other than a detailed investigation.

A ban should be the last resort. Surely there should be no bans at all unless a previous warning has been disregarded. Staff who fail to warn before banning need to be warned themselves and should lose their powers if they disregard it.

First of all, yes, I was going to suggest leech went from 15% to 5% per level. Does anyone that doesn't play Lancaster think this is unfair?

You propose nerfing by a factor of 3 the most powerful mid-range special of a ship widely considered balanced at end of beta? Without any compensating bonus I don't see how anyone can think that is fair.

I don't have a lanc at the moment but I certainly hope to play one regularly along with spider and warbird. I would expect lanc to have kill/survival specials that match the spider energy tank and super and the warbird escape pod.

Look, I've seen Lancasters take out 7-8 people in a row, one by one, in the flagroom because of the leech.

The chances of this being purely due to leech is under 3% even if it was the one player currently able to have 60% leeching. My spider super also takes out that many occasionally and I don't even have L2s yet. With a little time for recharge, a little skill and a little luck I would expect any high level kill ship to be able to get this kind of streak.

Yes 60% full charge per kill is a huge advantage but so are many other specials in the game such as regenerating bursts/portals, escape pods, super and energy tank. They don't make you invincible. Adapting your tactics to deal with powerful specials is part of the game.

[TagMor]

A ban should be the last resort. Surely there should be no bans at all unless a previous warning has been disregarded. Staff who fail to warn before banning need to be warned themselves and should lose their powers if they disregard it.

^This.

Dist Staff should follow the same protocol as the rest of TW. The fact they arnt is indictive of their attitude of treating Distension as their own little toy, and have free reign to do what they please.
As I said a few pages ago, if allowed to continue its only going to severily damage the game.

[Trunks_rage]

Stabwound, does it really surprise you most people who aren't lanc, and don't think they will ever be able to unlock lanc, think it should be less powerful? That is total tyranny of the majority at its worst.

Just like Viruk said, there are times when spider is even more effective at clearing a room than the lanc. There is a long enough delay between my bullets firing to kill me, if I take out 6 people it is because I'm dodging not eating. Spiders that tank my bullets can actually kill me quite effectively.

Reducing something by a factor of 3 is ridiculous. Especially since you have never used lanc and don't know how often leeching actually works. I can fire off 3 sets of bullets in succession using just my normal energy. Understand? That means if I do clear out the FR I've only gotten a single Leech to do it. You basically want to reduce that possibility to a 3rd, that is bullshit and you know it. It is the same as using an energy tank.

I don't think you should have the power to single out a certain ship. Right now I am at a very high rank, 47, that is higher than most peoples ships in a very powerful ship, of course I'm going to overpower a lot of people. The levis can shoot level 3s and still tank my lvl2s.

All my ship can basically do is shoot off bullets. It is slow and has crummy recharge. The best thing about it is leeching it is the only real perk. You take that away you are being a total dick and showing huge bias by singling out a ship you don't use. People used to complain more about the spiders early on when they got super, and the weasels who can port and cloak and a million other things.

You think it is fair to reduce the only good upgrade for lanc to a third of its current value? that would make the maximum leech possible lower than what I have now with only 3/5 upgrades. You want me to slave away to get less of what I already have. Total bullshit man, complete failure of leadership.

[Trunks_rage]

You know what. Fuck it. I'm done with Distension, Stabwound tells other people to assist but won't even do it himself. He goes off on this little "obligation" BS. You are obligated to keep the teams from being stacked you fucking moron. You have gotten just as bad as HMS. I'm tired of this schedule, you wanting to fuck up the lancs settings, the million or so levis, and the bot d/cing me constantly. This is just a waste of time. The game isn't fun anymore anyway, I would rather play ?go base. This has become a battle of who can tank or warp more. There isn't any skill involved.

I want my evenings back, this schedule is ridiculous, the fun part of subspace is you can do it whenever you have the time. Now even that has been taken away. Enjoy your levi clusterfuck. I guess the only lanc you can bitch about now is shock.

Peace

[Liquid Blue]

I want my evenings back, this schedule is ridiculous, the fun part of subspace is you can do it whenever you have the time. Now even that has been taken away. Enjoy your levi clusterfuck.

Wow it sounds so much like pub

[Lizard Fuel]

Without weasel, you better be a really lucky high ranked terr, a really lucky spider, or lizard fuel.

I would totally make this my sig if the OP wasn't such a complete fucking moron.

The irony is I don't even have lanc yet.

Think I'm gonna start some sort of Levi Cult in distension and rally against Tagmor & Dako so they can right a book about it together.

Wahhhhh

Cya Holmes.

[DankNuggets]

Right now I am at a very high rank, 47, that is higher than most peoples ships in a very powerful ship,

so quit complaining already. I have a couple of solutions for you.

1. Play other ships. All i see you playing now is lanc. I think it's because it's easy to rape ppl in, and you're pissed to see it get a little bit harder (even though it's still ez). If you have all your other ships at rank 45+, then:

2. Stop playing so much. Jesus, I love this game as much as the next guy, and I don't have any ships over 30. don't have weasel or lanc, just got jav the other day. Maybe you're burning yourself out on this.


I just don't get it. You're raping everyone and getting a ton of RP, and you're bored, but now you're mad? Well DUH, it's because it's not a challenge anymore. Gonna quit over leach being nerfed? Really? Well then goodbye, it's not like I enjoyed playing against your overpowered ship constantly anyway.

[Trunks_rage]

Gonna quit over leach being nerfed? Really? Well then goodbye, it's not like I enjoyed playing against your overpowered ship constantly anyway.

I don't want to get sucked into this whole thing, I have my reasons and they are good ones. The problems will continue, TW is dying anyway. I like basing and I like spidering. I thought distension made this more available. But the spider has become underpowered since everyone can tank, I was forced to upgrade from nothing my lanc which did take a while. Now people want to make the lanc less powerful because nobody else can unlock it. Very democratic, lets just fuck up anything we cant have right?

Overall the worst thing is the schedule. It's just really fucking up my evenings and I know I'm wasting too much time with it. I get home from the gym and I got maybe an hour tops to eat something, shower and then sit around 10 minutes for it to start. If you don't get there right on time it fills up and you have to wait another 20 to 30 minutes to play. It's just not worth it anymore, and the game play has gotten worse. I played ?go base randomly for the first time in a long while and enjoyed it far more. I know people will get bored with Distension, there are a lot of things that need to be addressed.

I know I can be a dick sometimes, but I think part of that is this game and the frustration it causes. I'm a very mellow person in real life. When you know people are running something poorly and you can't change it, that obviously is going to piss you off. Being the lanc is like being a second class citizen because everyone resents you. People always heckle you, but get over it, I earned the fucking ship, and I didn't do it by camping. Now cause I can actually dodge bullets I need to be penalized? There are tons of problems with the team balance, the terrs, the levis, the weasels, etc, but first priority is to fuck with a ship that only 2 people use regularly? Come on, it's just ridiculous, they had a beta to test the ships out, maybe the people who earned the lanc are actually good? And when you give a good ship to a good player they are going to dominate?

OK I have typed too much, but I'm serious I'm not playing it anymore, a lot of people will probably be happy about this, but I can't stick to this schedule and harassment anymore. Good luck everyone.