Now that Weasel's bullet speed has been changed...

[Davey Jones]

give spiders white bullets and reps.


GG :P

[FarScape]

Nevermind :fear:

[Maverick X+]

Well i'm all for attempting to make levs more solo oriented without breaking them to hell even moreso than they already are... I am willing to work in private much like how there was a private test arena to test out weasel's new bullets and such and see if some sort of compromise can be made...

[CaptainPoopface]

It's the halfway decent levs who have the best records in pub - 3:1 or 4:1 sometimes, much higher than is reasonable for the rest of the ships that have to aim. So the levs who manage to green up get their revenge and then quite a lot more. Granted, most of them attach to a terrier, but the lev really wasn't designed for soloing like you do, and you're probably the only one I've seen do it consistently.

The penalty for the ridiculous L3 blast radius is that everyone wants you dead, all the time, immediately if not sooner. The reward for surviving is that you get to slaughter people, usually from somewhere safe.

I'd be all for downgrading the lev to L2 bombs and giving it more maneuverability to make it self reliant, as has been discussed. I doubt it would ever happen though.

[FarScape]

Levs are crap.
They should make their bombs much much way way weaker, and give them perhaps better speed and mobility...

[Andy H.K.]

I think this is a valid request.

I understand why we have to limit the firing rate of levi bombs - one alone can do a lot of damage. I doubt this hard-coded cooldown was there to limit their repel rate. Now that it does, it is a undesirable side-effect.

Even with its removal, firing rate of levi is still limited by energy rechage rate. if it happens to grab a full recharge, I say let them fire - everyone else is doing that.

[Maverick X+]

And even then they took away one of those rockets but that was years ago. Its funny how all the bitching for x's got some sort of change, its high time someone started it for levs.

[ÆNIMA]

Just because cloakers got their piece of cake doesn't mean that you'll get yours. Haven't you noticed a trend in how levis are treated? Ever since I've been online, they've been more and more limited. The rockets are the only thing that they've been given lately.

[Maverick X+]

Get better? I lev quite a bit aswell because if you can't beat the games problem might aswell join the problem and let me tell you i go positive even solo every time naturally finding a way around the rep problem, and besides you get infinite lives so if you die from that there's no problem, if the ships base settings aren't too your liking change ship. Simple prospect, you can't change fighters in a console game even if they have "problems" but every one of their problems can be worked around.

I solo lev about 95% of the time i'm online, I too carry a positive record on it and no offense but i never see you on lev let alone online at all... Yes, there are ways around the rep problem but again, lev is so damn limited on those options they cannot be used effectively to get around let alone stay alive. Again, talk to any other true lev player and they will tell you they will want the repel lockout delay changed because every other damn ship in this zone does not have a delay like this.

Again, this isn't a game-breaking change to this game that would make the ship unbalanced, it in fact would at least balance itself just a tad bit so that it can defend itself more naturally as thats what the repel is naturally designed to do, fend of an attack in preparation for your counter attack. And again, if the mods can go upgrade something minor for one ship that was due for an update (x) then why not do it for another one to give soloers more of a fighting chance to stay alive.

[inaphyt]

Get better? I lev quite a bit aswell because if you can't beat the games problem might aswell join the problem and let me tell you i go positive even solo every time naturally finding a way around the rep problem, and besides you get infinite lives so if you die from that there's no problem, if the ships base settings aren't too your liking change ship. Simple prospect, you can't change fighters in a console game even if they have "problems" but every one of their problems can be worked around.

[Maverick X+]

If you've died from the delay from rep you have to find a way round it the most obvious way is to port quite a distance away or lay your port so you can rep one bullet and then portal and rocket and kill the assailent theres ways around the levs flaws and i think if your talking about beefing the ship up anymore your mental.

Obviously your bias towards lev obviously lead you to post the crap that i'm reading... If you die from the delay from rep you have to find a way around it? Are you serious? Lev is dead slow and is for the most part spawn killed constantly before you can even get 2 inches away from your port to begin with. Secondly, I'm not asking to buff the lev up, I'm asking to fix the damn delay problem in which is retarded to have to begin with. Yes i may be mental since i can lev all day without piggybacking on a terr so i obviously know what i'm talking about but i find it funny that you would go post "find ways around the problem" when obviously there is none...

[inaphyt]

The cloaker needs to be bulked up into a better ship honestly it's the worst ship in the game imo, the small cloaker was awesome and now it's a useless ship.

The Levi needs to be nerfed heavily into a ship suited for basing, honestly people use to complain about weasels swooping through the little holes in base and then killing one person maximum and then dying but a lev fires one bomb and every single person dies, it's not fun it ruins pub, why did staff stop looking into changing it for the better, i hate levs.

If you've died from the delay from rep you have to find a way round it the most obvious way is to port quite a distance away or lay your port so you can rep one bullet and then portal and rocket and kill the assailent theres ways around the levs flaws and i think if your talking about beefing the ship up anymore your mental.

There are several ways of dealing with lt's one of them is become an lt yourself but doing so doubles the problem of lt's, another is get a little crew together consisting of a spider with antiwarp, a terr and warbird, another is laying a portal in one of the lev shots porting and then bursting to kill (very effective). But the way i deal with them is get on the freq by being nice and then tk it. Illegal but i feel lt's should be illegal and the lev should be nerfed so who cares.

[kthx]

nobody cares what you think about the matter Jab you ..... fuck.

[JabJabJab]

hahahah "simple" changes? BULLSHIT Discretion is being made so that so much more can be done. Trust me, it's a great thing to look forward to.

[Maverick X+]

Yeah but why wait for a new client to make rather simple changes that can be made now aside from the somewhat hesitant to change owners that things are just fine as they are now.... and on a side note, i hate the new x bullet speed...