New pub money system

[Xog]

1. Assigning blame is different than determining root cause. Determining root cause has value, assigning blame does not. Stop using names.

2. Feature creep is common to all development. Recognize it and recognize when developers are doing it. Every developer wants to add crap just because they think it is cool. What a developer thinks is cool is meaningless. What users think is cool has value.

This isn’t rocket science.
eph

i believe the blame goes to the fact that devs do things for the zone on their own dime and time as pet projects which im not saying needs to be fixed, it just is. The devs do this with people's entertainment in mind and to express the programmer's own creativity and expand their knowledge and limits of programming. They arent here for everyones beckoned call, although they use and manipulate ideas given and wanted by the public with their own imagination and creativity to express themselves and make something worth their time. Devs implement and program things mostly for themselves first and for the public second. This is just the way things are. Trenchwars isnt a company it is a community and the sooner people realize this the better.

That said, dont expect everything you want. Ive learned to be happy with what i have throughout my life and seeing everyone whine bitch moan and groan over stupid little things makes me sick to my stomach.

[kthx]

Yeah Nockm, that is why nobody listens to you an experienced veteran member of this zone who has devoted countless hours into being a member of staff, and playing and running several squads throughout your career.

Cheese the non important owner of a failed sub arena in TW zone, stealer of tilesets and ideas, and interzoneally hated dipshit who for some reason thinks hes a part of our community is right.

[Arobas+]

Testing on the public arena was a mistake and the dev team apologizes. I was the one trying to keep this project secret but secret doesn't mean to code in our bunker until we release it. Nooo. There was a team of volunteer who were giving ideas/outputs to the dev team. Witness was also behind this project and as you may know, he is sysop and in charge of the pub.

As for myself, I was there to help dexter with ideas but I didn't had the time to help him with the code because at this time, I was on a big project at school until recently. But unfortunately, dexter was going back to school and before, he wanted to test his new creation (the pub system). And you know the rest..

Now what's next?

I'm currently testing, fixing some bugs and adding more features to this bot. Yes I hear you : "why more features, test it first to see if the public will like". I'm adding features to make this bot easier to maintain and to add/remove items. This bot was clearly not ready to be tested with the public and I want to make sure that everything is ready before doing any kind of test with the public. At the same time, the !help and F1 will be revised.

There will be a first beta test with the staff and some players on a private arena. If these tests appears to be good, the test phase will be moved to "?go PubTest" for a few weeks. A new thread will be made to let you post your constructive comments.

Yeah.. I was really optimist but couldn't work on this project until recently. Now I have the time, just sad that Dexter left at the same time.

[Ephemeral]

i believe the blame goes to the fact that devs do things for the zone on their own dime and time as pet projects which im not saying needs to be fixed, it just is. The devs do this with people's entertainment in mind and to express the programmer's own creativity and expand their knowledge and limits of programming. They arent here for everyones beckoned call, although they use and manipulate ideas given and wanted by the public with their own imagination and creativity to express themselves and make something worth their time. Devs implement and program things mostly for themselves first and for the public second. This is just the way things are. Trenchwars isnt a company it is a community and the sooner people realize this the better.

That said, dont expect everything you want. Ive learned to be happy with what i have throughout my life and seeing everyone whine bitch moan and groan over stupid little things makes me sick to my stomach.

I never said that Subspace (or TW) was a company, it is a product. And product development and product cycles have been done for ages. This is the common thread.

Apparently this is rocket science for you! :P
eph

[Xog]

That post wasnt directed at u i was just quoting it as a supplement to mine and didnt feel like doing surgery to delete parts of it cuz i was posting from my phone

[Jason]

iphone surgery app... i can see it now. doctors controlling laser scalpel equipped robots via their phones while vacationing on a beach in the bahamas!