Hyperspace and other zones inflating their populations

[Spidernl]

The reason HyperSpace is doing this isn't because we want to steal population from other zones by inflating our own. It's HS' attempt to motivate the owners of zones that are inflating their population to stop doing so. Why? Because as soon as those zones stop faking their population, HyperSpace will also remove the +1000 population.

It's fairly ridiculous that a zone like Chaos actually changed some stuff on their server so that the fake population would show, as they were worried that without doing so they would be disadvantaged.

As for TW: I think that simply making bots work with a "spawn" system would cut down on the inflated population. A bot isn't needed? It leaves the zone. You need a bot to host event xyz? PM some central bot !spawn <thebotyouwant> and it'll enter and be ready for use. A duel bot can be spawned as soon as a duel arena is non-empty, etc.

Of course, the reason this kind of thing wasn't implemented in the first place is that zones are, or were, stupidly competitive with their population inflation and see/saw extra population in the form of bots as a positive side-effect.

But, Hyperspace passed off this inflated number as a "glitch" for the longest time, and now we know it is intentional.

You must have been dropped on your head sometime soon after you were born. Repeatedly. HS passed this number off as a glitch for exactly 0 years, 0 months, 0 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds and 0 milliseconds. Thank you for your attempt at lying, please try again later.

[kthx]

The reason HyperSpace is doing this isn't because we want to steal population from other zones by inflating our own. It's HS' attempt to motivate the owners of zones that are inflating their population to stop doing so. Why? Because as soon as those zones stop faking their population, HyperSpace will also remove the +1000 population.

You must have been dropped on your head sometime soon after you were born. Repeatedly. HS passed this number off as a glitch for exactly 0 years, 0 months, 0 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds and 0 milliseconds. Thank you for your attempt at lying, please try again later.

Of course this is what I have come to expect from people who play that zone.

[roxxkatt]

As for TW: I think that simply making bots work with a "spawn" system would cut down on the inflated population. A bot isn't needed? It leaves the zone. You need a bot to host event xyz? PM some central bot !spawn <thebotyouwant> and it'll enter and be ready for use. A duel bot can be spawned as soon as a duel arena is non-empty, etc.

it already does
also, tw only has 28 bots on average, which is a pretty small number

[Spidernl]

Of course this is what I have come to expect from people who play that zone.

I don't know what you're trying to say. There's no contradiction in those two statements.

If you're trying to point out my aggressive tone or something silly like that, keep in mind that I really don't like liars. People who make up things like "HS passing this off as a glitch" are just trying to manipulate people. I don't appreciate that.
Anyways, you seem to be on the liar's side, so I guess your opinion is fairly meaningless.

[Vatican Assassin]

spider dropping bombs

1000+ bombs

in life you have 2 choices when you see other people act immorally

you can do it too or not

[kthx]

I don't know what you're trying to say. There's no contradiction in those two statements.

If you're trying to point out my aggressive tone or something silly like that, keep in mind that I really don't like liars. People who make up things like "HS passing this off as a glitch" are just trying to manipulate people. I don't appreciate that.
Anyways, you seem to be on the liar's side, so I guess your opinion is fairly meaningless.

No its just that you are a huge whining faggot that knows absolutely nothing and nobody cares what you say or think. Typical hyperspacer, thats all i meant.

[roxxkatt]

translation:
hello, i am kthx, and since i am a faggot and am dumb i have to resort to namecalling
please ignore me, as any text i produce is not worth reading by anyone

[paradise!]

The reason HyperSpace is doing this isn't because we want to steal population from other zones by inflating our own. It's HS' attempt to motivate the owners of zones that are inflating their population to stop doing so. Why? Because as soon as those zones stop faking their population, HyperSpace will also remove the +1000 population.

It's fairly ridiculous that a zone like Chaos actually changed some stuff on their server so that the fake population would show, as they were worried that without doing so they would be disadvantaged.

As for TW: I think that simply making bots work with a "spawn" system would cut down on the inflated population. A bot isn't needed? It leaves the zone. You need a bot to host event xyz? PM some central bot !spawn <thebotyouwant> and it'll enter and be ready for use. A duel bot can be spawned as soon as a duel arena is non-empty, etc.

Of course, the reason this kind of thing wasn't implemented in the first place is that zones are, or were, stupidly competitive with their population inflation and see/saw extra population in the form of bots as a positive side-effect.



You must have been dropped on your head sometime soon after you were born. Repeatedly. HS passed this number off as a glitch for exactly 0 years, 0 months, 0 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds and 0 milliseconds. Thank you for your attempt at lying, please try again later.

Gee Whiz, thanks for that critique on our bot spawning system. I had no idea this was turning into a fishing expedition. You do realize the TW bot system has been in place for years right?

Real classy of Hyperspace to basically hold a gun to every zone on the client because it doesn't like what 44-member Chaos Zone is doing. Your zone seems to be acting like it has the muscle in this game. Have you forgotten that your zone MAXES out at 12 people in peak hours (including bots)?

If you and your 5 hyperspace friends are that upset, then go take it up with whatever the hell that Subspace Council shit is. I don't see a point in this "Council" if your 6 friends can glitch the system to saying it has 1006.

IMO. Sooner or later, you're zone needs to be given an ultimatum or else we'll just make our own client.

[Spidernl]

I didn't critique your bot spawning system. I just said what I would personally do about bots that are inflating population. Cheese! already mentioned TW only has 28, apparently. I remember it having quite a bit more, sorry for not keeping up to date on improvements to your zone's bot system.

For the record:

Hyperspace has 20-30-player flaggames practically every day. Not all day, no, but at peak times we have a decent bit of population. HS' population has also been remarkably stable over the years. Of course, it has been dropping, like pretty much every other zone's population, but not quite as rapidly as many others. With some luck, some changes to the zone I've been developing for a few months now will recover some population, as quite a few players have left and are waiting for this "new item set" to be done to return.

Also for the record: HS has 0 bots owned by the zone. Right now, there's one active bot owned by Cheese!, which is an automated chat client - a User Bot. We do have some fake players you guys would likely call bots, but those aren't counted in our population.

We're not upset. We just figured that, if everyone else is inflating their population to a couple times their true population, we might as well do the same, and show them just how ridiculous it is to do so. That, and hopefully motivate them to stop doing it - so that the new players you all seem to be so worried about can judge zones based on their real population, not some imaginary number.

And if you don't think this inflation is ridiculous, look at this:

[D1st0rt]

spider, it's cool bro relax

no need to revive threads just to start fights, especially when nothing said here actually means anything

[Vatican Assassin]

well it's been 6 months and chaos zone with their huge inflation that is killing hyperspace has not changed their evil ways, so it looks like there's only one thing to do spider

add another 1000

the only way to stop getting fucked by chaos is to start fucking with every other zone right man? keep fighting the good fight man, your zone it about to take off

[Jones]

doubt chaos has inflated their population. they merged powerball, chaos/league zone and EG. that happened after hyperspace added 1k to their 'population' though

[Supreme]

TW should add 2000 as a repercussion

[midoent]

something has to be done about this. We barely get any new players exclude hyperspace from the client notify priitk or someone.

[kthx]

I don't think anyone gives a shit anymore, because once we get that new website we will legitimately have like 2000 players 24/7.