Fundamentally TW

[Jeansi]

Originally posted by CR0SSFIRE


PS. The Trench Wars Warbird is quite possibly the most perfect ship this game has ever seen. (correct me if I'm wrong.)

I don't think it is. It is too much of a killah machine out in the open.
My list:
1) Easy to learn - hard to master: Practically the easiest and best way to do it is one hit kills.

2) The people: Most new players start by playing TW because it has the most ppl on. I'd play alot of other zones aswell if they would only be enough players on them (and if they all would be subarenas to the same zone, so that I would not have to disconnect to change arena)

3) Alot of the concepts with TW:
Very different ships, quite balanced even! (note the quite!)
Very different things to do: Duelling in many ships and of course basing.
The base: not a huge labyrinth but a small and well-planned place for fighting and a fr on top of it with the objective, the flag
HUGE amount of sub-arenas which are nothing like pub.

[Mayo Inc.]

Originally posted by Jason
I pity the fool who touches my javelin.

oh man they mess with the jav and I dont know what I'll do

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

sorry, i have to interrupt this babble for a statement.
the tw warbird is far from being the most perfect ship in any zone, let alone trench wars.

according to the very basic original tw ship descriptions, the warbird is meant to represent the sniper (jav/grenader, spider/machine gunner, lev/artillery, terr/transport, weasel/spy, lanc/shotgunner, shark/minesweeper). how the fuck do you expect a sniper to be able to run around kicking as much ass as the tw version does? it's horribly unbalanced, and will always be horribly unbalanced, because there's a huge percentage of the tw population that under the false imperssion that warbirds require skill.

that is all, back to discussion about troll king's question.

[WiseCherub]

Stop what Miku?? What did I do wrong? Did I post too long of a message?

Anyways regarding WBs, no they are not the best ships in pub arenas. No ship type is the best, every ship is good.

Some people say other ships suck, but because they don't know how to use them properly.

Like imagine a shark in open space trying to duel a warbird; in most cases the WB would win...

Now the average new player, will say.. Sharks suck... WBs own...
yes, in the case of open space dueling. To me this is all no brainer stuff, surprised how many people don't know this.

But in closed space areas, the shark can do some nasty stuff if used properly.

Its how you use the ship that matters for its design in mind.

Like Warbirds in flagroom, is stupid..... unless they need urgent help. Warbirds are best in lower base area!!!! to protect jav bombers from the enemy.

Yes, the Warbird takes time to master, and doesn't come easily especially to proper aim.

Now we are going off topic......

What attracted me to TW was large online population. But later I tried out other zones, and hated their settings. Yeah, zillions of bullets everywhere...well dodging pretty well goes out the door.

I like the settings, but come on give the leviathans back 2 repels and keep current settings.

[Mobey]

u type too much.

[Spider]

1!niw rof nedalaP

If he wants to type let him type. Nice to see people interested in the zone and not just interested in heckling people. Cherubim, if people flame you that's nothing. People flame even me sometimes, and I'm the King. Unf

[Troll King]

A shark can demolish a javelin with regularity fighting in the base (all else being equal). Sharks have no business being anywhere outside of the base.

[Demolish]

Originally posted by Troll King
A shark can demolish a javelin with regularity fighting in the base (all else being equal). Sharks have no business being anywhere outside of the base.

aw demolish

[Cops]

Originally posted by Troll King
Sharks have no business being anywhere outside of the base.

except for lt's.... why hasn't the levi been removed? I mean we all hate it and the only ones who will say "no not the levi!" is some Spastic guys and most of Paladen.

[WiseCherub]

Thanks Spider, I know yeah you cant please everyone these days.
But it is interesting, how some people condemn, write next to zilch.

When I'm really interested in something, I can type out a lot really quick and it flows.
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About leviathans, don't automatically asume that everyone hates leviathans. I hate that they kill me cheaply sometimes, but they add an interesting element to the game as the chief assault weapon to knock out a pile of suckers.

Like I don't get it? LT on right side slot hole in lower base, fires lower right side of flag room... a few die.. LT is still there, and flag room crammers, just stay there again... And some wonder why the base is lost so fast; I think they deserve to die if they can't figure this out. Some people play this game, and have no concept of military strategy. No, they think you just rotate and fire at anything close by. But that is ok, some people don't take the game that seriously, and just want mindless fun.

Out in open space, they are tortured to death, and deserve a liittle fun when they make it thru as an reward.

Unfortunately, the new settings in both leviathan and weasel, give the weasel a upper hand.

1 or 2 repels might save a levy or buy it time.

Warbirds can absolutely slaughter levys... and if they are a good WB they could snipe the levy, leaving the escort service awh struck.... "back to the drawing board..heh."

I gave up on levy hunting for my whole playing session, I do it sometimes to warm up on my aim..heh.. or to get revenge on LT'ers. So you would think I would want them to be handicaped... no I want them to be tougher to kill... its just too easy...

There is a growing trend of a lot of WB duelers hanging around the CROSS (front entrance), not basing but only dueling..... lots of spawners...etc.. they see a levy, they take out 90% or even 99.9% of time..heh..

better end here..heh..

[Webbb Llama v1.5]

elim

[Mongrel]

If they changed the warbird or made multiple flags that you could move in base.

[Salubrious]

Originally posted by sTuPiD-gErBiL
2) one-hit-kills - the foundation of tw and the laughing stock of all svs players, the ability for most ships to deal enough damage in one shot to kill other ship(s) at full health is what makes this zone fun. i have a relatively short attention span, and playing on the old vie zones were horribly shitty. i like reflex mixed with strategy instead of patience mixed with strategy.

cept when some idiot starts lagging and eating and jumping around like a chocolate-covered coffee bean.

o, and terriers, jav bullets, and terrier