Basing win condition

[Rab]

3:Rab> would basing be better if it was 10 mins win by 5?
3:Rab> one sided games would end earlier
3:Rab> and you couldnt win by jupe or last minute flag grab
3:Rab> but games could go on longer

[Rab]

3:superstar-PROkiller> so you need a minimum of 10 minutes?
3:Rab> yeh, so if ur 10-0 u win
3:superstar-PROkiller> ooh ok
3:Rab> rather than making you get 15-0
3:superstar-PROkiller> so 5-0 wouldn't be a win?
3:Rab> considered that
3:Rab> prolly too short
3:Rab> and u wouldnt want win by 10 i think

[Rab]

3:superstar-PROkiller> but 10-5 would also be an instant win
3:Rab> yup

[Rab]

3:Rab> possible risk is the longer the game the more annoying it is if there are lagouts, bot issues, etc

[Rab]

Collected some stats, based on the first page of "recent games for twbd for top 5 squads".

Games involving: Penetrate
Average win by: 4.97 mins
Number of games won by >=5 mins: 12
Number of games won by <5 mins: 18

Games involving: Revenge
Average win by: 5.73 mins
Number of games won by >=5 mins: 14
Number of games won by <5 mins: 16

Games involving: Dice
Average win by: 5.43 mins
Number of games won by >=5 mins: 14
Number of games won by <5 mins: 16

Games involving: Pandora
Average win by: 4.90 mins
Number of games won by >=5 mins: 12
Number of games won by <5 mins: 18

Games involving: Dudgeon
Average win by: 4.27 mins
Number of games won by >=5 mins: 11
Number of games won by <5 mins: 19

Games on average are won by about 5 mins. But this is an average! Over half the games are won by less than 5 mins. So to reach an average of about 5 mins that implies that the remaining games are won by large margins. Most games fall into "close wins" and most of the remainder fall into "overwhelming victories".

[Rab]

The top 5 squads play 82.6% of the games.
(note that only active squads are included)

[Rab]

This means that most games would become longer.

So we need a "draw" condition.

Say... if the game has gone on for... 50 minutes... and there is no winner.

[Rab]

Games on average (top 5 squads again) last 25 minutes (almost exactly).

[renzi]

we came back to win a bd one time after being down 8:00-0:00......this is bad and you should feel bad

[Rab]

50 minutes is probably too long.. how about 40 minutes.

I think it's worth having games be allowed to go on an extra 10 minutes to determine a clear winner.

If there's no clear winner it's a draw. No points are exchanged.

Games with a clear winner can end from 10 mins onwards.

[Rab]

we came back to win a bd one time after being down 8:00-0:00......this is bad and you should feel bad

My suggestion doesn't prevent this result.

[Rab]

... but it will always be the case that if the game went on longer the losing squad could have made a comeback.

[Rab]

I would expect the draw to be called once it can be determined there's no clear winner.

[Rab]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_(draw)

[Shaddowknight]

I dont feel like this is really an improvement upon our current system.
Perhaps finding a way to implement this into TWL would be a better use, or even TWDT next season. TWD matches are fine.