Elim vs. Baseelim

[mtine]

Hey guys!

It came to my attention that it would be a good idea to split both elims up again and let warbirds and javelins do there own bidding in each separate arena. After talking to qan about this, he told me the best course of action would be to make a thread on the forums about it and also add a poll to see what the majority thinks.

So, what do you guys think? Would separating elim and baseelim help the zone? If so, why? If you can, also give a good reason or just a sentence or two about your position on this topic. That would be much appreciated.

Kind regards,

wiibimbo

[Fork]

You will hate the truth but it won't make any difference. Last time I logged in (a month ago) the only active arenas were pub and twd. You will only separate a dead arena (basleem) into 2 dead arenas (elim and basleem) so there isn't any point.

[mtine]

Dude, chill. We've got some plans. If you don't know the whole story, don't bitch about it. Ok? Besides, read other post first.

[Fork]

Dude, chill. We've got some plans. If you don't know the whole story, don't bitch about it. Ok? Besides, read other post first.

No you made a forum thread asking for opinions about splitting baseleem. I posted my opinion... like you asked for. God I hope noone else gives their opinions otherwise you will shoot them down too?

[Ricko]

I've said no, on the basis elim is so inactive already that splitting them apart just filters down the player levels in each arena even more - although I don't know your plans so i could be wrong

[mtine]

Well, the main reason we are asking about this is because many warbirds voiced their opinion that when elim actually does start and goes on for a while, we play a couple of normal elims (warbird) and when we start warming up and gaining momentum to be ready for a dd or for example for TWDTD, javs just rush in from nowhere and steal the spotlight. Seen it happened a couple of times even when I didn't play. And there is nothing that warbirds can do to counter that. Also, if you haven't noticed, but javduel is on every day while wbduel is hosted very seldomly.

[Jones]

Prolly better to just have wb and jav games rotate every 2-3 games but keep the voting for "dead times"

[mtine]

Seeing as this isnt going anywhere, I'm gonna leave it at how it is.

[bugga]

Maybe unrelated but Why did you change the baseelim map in the first place if it served well for over a decade? I remember player activity going down after the decision. Succesful elim is/was the bridge between pub and pro games, everyone knows this.

[Leland]

Call Superb at 703-564-9887 and ask about the status of ticket #553598. Server IP is 66.36.247.83. The more who call, the better chance we have of getting it fixed

[inertube]

I think there is a simple solution for baselim and elim. Hear me out on this, because people will be against it.

We need to integrate these into the public arena. An area of the public arena map outside the basing game for the wb/spider/lanc elim matches and one for the jav baseelims.

So how does this work? Well, I’m my head a way to do this would be to have an Elim-Bot in spec in the public arena.

You want to play baseelim or elim?
Type :Elim-Bot:?q [baseelim][elim][both]

You can play your public game like normal. The baseelim or elim process starts once X amount of players are queued. I think 6 or 8 is a good number to use, with a max of 12 per match.

Once the threshold is met, Elim-Bot will need to verify you are still online and want to play. Elim-Bot sends a message like:

Elim-Bot> Player threshold has been met for [baseelim][elim] - please reply with ?ready (or ?r) to confirm your entry into battle. You have 30 seconds.

If 6 players or more are not confirmed ready, the bot re-queues them at the top of their list, and sends a message informing them that enough players were not confirmed ready and they have been requeued. If you did not response to the ready request, you are removed from the list.

Once the match is confirmed with 6 ready players, they are warped to the respective elimination area of the map for battle. The Elim-Bot will select how many deaths, based on player counts. 6-7 players would be 5 deaths, 8-12 would be 10. Once a player has typed ?r to the bot, they are confirmed for the game and if they leave/lagout and not return within 20 seconds, they forfeit and will given a death in he stays for each remaining life.

After your elimination match is completed, the winner will have the option to re-queue at the top of the list, and everyone else will need to re-queue themselves. Stats will be updated, etc.

You will be re-added back to the public basing area to play while you wait for the next elimination match.

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So there is some concerns about greens and how they could effect the play in these areas. Sharp, full charges, rockets, etc. I’m not sure if there is a way to restrict where greens can spawn within the map along with the powers they grant.

If there is not a way to prevent which greens can spawn where, I have an idea around what could be done, but it would take additional work. A bot would have to handle the prizing of items to ships when they spawn. It become messy in a way, unless you limit baseelim to jav only and elim to warbird only. Then a bot could just grant jav it’s sharp and rockets on spawn in the pub match, but not in the elimination match.

You would also have to turn off greens on deaths in the arena to eliminate the full charge/sharp/rockets for the elimination ships. Pub could become angry at that since the terr in base needs greens from deaths, so maybe have a timer in place for terr’s that prizes them a burst or portal every x minutes they are alive.

Hopefully this makes sense.

[Banks]

The game is so dead that people rarely play elim at all anymore, splitting the arenas would be unnecessarily stupid.