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**Liquid Blue** · 09-30-2003, 02:38 PM

Re: Tking in the pure pub

Originally posted by za gophar ]I didnt think jav tking would be much worse in this pub, but it is. there are some logical ways to fix it though so i am going to suggest some.

1. Put a 300 hour usage limit on jav (if people wanna jav wrecklessly or practice shots they should do it in a less densly populated base where there is no limit.)

2. Set a limit on how many javs are allowed per freq (3, 4 max).

3. Have the bot keep records (like a ratio of TK's to time) on Tking and have it do the following: nothing happens on first TK; red warning on second TK; Ship change on third TK with a warning that further TKs will result in a ban--play at own risk; 4th tk: ban. this gives the tker plently of warning before he is banned. also this would really have to be for javs only and not sharks.

one, both, or all of these would help the problem.

That usage limit is the stupidest idea ever. No way I should have to stay on my main account to play a jav in pure pub. Just keep an ER there to ban anyone who tk's more than 3 times. If you tk more than 3 times, you should get out of the jav ship anyway. 3 strike rule, not that 300 hour usage bs.

**ÆNIMA** · 09-30-2003, 03:11 PM

GET RID OF THE JAV TKS RUIN BASING WAAAAAAAH

seriously...5fers, 5fer tks...it's an abomination, ban the jav also...might as well ban the shark while you're at it.....or just get rid of all the bombs

damn gophar, you always find something to whine about

**Fluffz** · 09-30-2003, 03:15 PM

ok i doubt my silly opinion deserves an own thread so ill post that here:

how about we do not make ?go base out of pub. pub has always been fun for me, still is and will always be. i never gave much about the leagues or elim and even after the old guys invited me to their magic places i still liked pub. and i dont think i am alone with that.
the levis were a problem and needed a change yes but you guys are going too far. pub is different. its funny and funky and if you got an nmy jav in your base you do not have a spiders who goes after it. deal with that. banning the levis or javs or roofers would mean to take an aspect out of the game. and i dont like that.

dont get me wrong, kudos to guanobot i guess it was hard to get it allowed. but this is pub. it has its own rules, you should not try to make it look like 8v8 basing.

i do not call the current situation a fix, its a step in the right direction but the finish line isnt even in sight yet.

**Dim** · 09-30-2003, 03:29 PM

za gophar, arent you like the worlds biggest TKer?

**za gophar** · 09-30-2003, 04:16 PM

tking on purpose is another matter dimboy lol. and i only tked levis, kind of like a vigilante. now i have no reason to though.

damn gophar, you always find something to whine about

was that whining? sounded more like constructive criticism to me. and i do try to criticize as much as possible, how else will improvements be made? dont you think that tking javs is an easily solved problem, or are you just bitter for some reason?

and liquid blue, it shouldnt matter that much what name you play on i dont think, especially when its not the only arena you can jav in... but whatever, i still think the usage limit is the worst of the 3 ideas, but not as bad as you made it out to be.

**Liquid Blue** · 09-30-2003, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by za gophar

and liquid blue, it shouldnt matter that much what name you play on i dont think, especially when its not the only arena you can jav in... but whatever, i still think the usage limit is the worst of the 3 ideas, but not as bad as you made it out to be.

If I don't feel like switching to LB and playing in a pub without levis, why the hell should I? Fuck your usage idea, it's stupid as hell to have 300 hours on my TW names just because some other dick can't aim.

**Troll King** · 09-30-2003, 04:43 PM

I don't know why this news is surprising.

Bad javs have always TKed me more often than levis do in regular pubs. The only difference is that levis are an easier target to blame. Sure levis may get you every now and then, but on the weight of sheer numbers, it's more likely that a jav does the damage.

**froedrick** · 09-30-2003, 05:19 PM

in that new pure pub i saw ppl like thos whining about 'Lame wbs' flying around in mid and such its getting ridiculous stfu and play.

**skate** · 09-30-2003, 05:58 PM

you people bitch and moan about everything, when one of your so called problems is solved you always come up with something new to cry about.

**Zemyla** · 09-30-2003, 06:23 PM

It seems that every ship pisses someone off.

Why not have an arena where all ships are banned? That way, you can just sit and talk about the ships that you hate.

**Verthanthi** · 09-30-2003, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Troll King
Bad javs have always TKed me more often than levis do in regular pubs. The only difference is that levis are an easier target to blame. Sure levis may get you every now and then, but on the weight of sheer numbers, it's more likely that a jav does the damage.

He's right, but I'm less concerned about TKs. They happen, and I bitch when it does. However, newbies (and people who just suck at jav) need to practice somewhere. It's not fair to force them to play in basingless or private arenas. The point of the pure pub is to remove the unbalanced ship.

**za gophar** · 09-30-2003, 07:25 PM

uhh ok i guess you all dont seem to mind the excessive tking. in fact you almost seem to advocate it. its not like im saying "GET RID OF THE LAME JAVELIN" i am just suggesting something that can help solve a problem.

I don't know why this news is surprising.

Bad javs have always TKed me more often than levis do in regular pubs. The only difference is that levis are an easier target to blame. Sure levis may get you every now and then, but on the weight of sheer numbers, it's more likely that a jav does the damage.

It was suprising for me to be tked by javelins at a relatively rapid rate (ew, nice alliteration) because in my opinion levis tked me FAR more than javs. There are two reasons that might explain why our perceptions of this are different and one is that you often shark, sharks are often in the entrance, and many jav shots tend to be centered in your specific area. the other reason is that i think i kind of adapted to jav tks and avoiding them became burned into my instincts, whereas levi tks are much more difficult to avoid once you see them coming (which is usually as a moving flashing dot on radar).

If I don't feel like switching to LB and playing in a pub without levis, why the hell should I? Fuck your usage idea, it's stupid as hell to have 300 hours on my TW names just because some other dick can't aim.

and it can just as easily be said that it is stupid not to have this rule so some dumbass who insists on playing with multiple names at the expense of being tked far more often cant play jav in one pub. your arguement is the least likely one of the two that i anticipated... the more likely being that stance that if newbies want to jav without being botered by levis, let them. while i would not mind having a usage limit in the slightest bit, im sure a few people would, and that is why i considered this idea not very likely. and i am not pushing for it to be put in place. but i am pushing the third idea, cause i think they its a solution that would satisfy everyone.

**Troll King** · 09-30-2003, 07:35 PM

I would bet that staff receives as many if not more cheater calls for tking javs than for tking levis. As for being a shark, I would think that would put me in a better position to see all TKs.

**stark** · 09-30-2003, 07:47 PM

when the levis go away, then the javs come out to play

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