Laming

[RING LORD]

Ok I know that I'm a noob, newb, newbie, etc. but I've only been playing for a couple weeks and I'm trying to figure out exactly what "laming" is.

Spawning: I know what spawning is and I try not to spawn whenever possible. Usually I try to fly by a ship that spawns but most of the time I get killed. This is a frustrating part of the game but oh well, I try...

Laming: I'm not really sure what this is? I like to spend a lot of time dueling on the roof. When it gets slow I try to shoot through the two small holes to get the other teams terr. I was recently told that this is "laming". If this is a bad thing then why put the holes there? I would also like to know why I can get killed by someone shooting out but I can't shoot in?

I tried to search older threads for the definition of "laming" but couldn't really find anything.

I'm trying to be fair so any help is welcome.

Thanks and sorry if this post was already covered...

[Fluffz]

nice post under the aspect that basing can be considered as the point of this game a definition could be:

everything not related to get or hold the flag is "lame". so no matter if you are gentle to spawners or not you still lame around in spawn. if u are on top waiting for someone to duel and shoot some random shots into base you are a top lamer. its quite easy actually.

[RING LORD]

Thx, that definition sounds pretty good. Not to be a pest but If I am shooting to help my team take base it's not laming right?

[za gophar]

shooting someone right when you yourself spawn is also known as spawning. if im flying spider i like to just check people who spawn with a couple shots and fly by so they have to recharge till they can shoot.

to me the word laming has a pretty complex definition. after a while of playing you just start to see through people's actions and you know whats lame and whats not.. generally though i think spawning and cloaking are lame. being cloaked and being spawned have one thing in common: it was not your fault that you died (unless you're cloaked in a terr or something). other lame things? it really is just a matter of opinion. two thing i think are 1. lame are people who fly around spawn in warbird, doing nothing but radar shooting and thinking they are hot shit and 2. when im camping in a jav off to the side of the tunnel and a terrier comes by and drop a burst right above me and flies away. yes, its my fault i died, but its like i said before: you can see through people's actions after a while. the terr went out of his way because he knew that he could get a kill that involved no effort... and it was a complete waste of a burst. similar situations happen when javs use their rockets on people just cause they know it equals a kill, no matter how important the kill.

one thing many people think is lame but i do not is vulching. this is when a person has just killed an opponent and is low on energy, and you take advantage of that and hunt him down while he is low on energy. this is somewhat lame in svs zones and such... but not really. if a person cant factor in everything around him, he does not deserve to be able to fly away ignored.

[Fluffz]

no, unless the guy you shot thinks it is and calls you a lamer. this isnt exactly a science

on a sidenote: a warbird inside base does roughly 513% more damage to the nmy team than a warbird on the roof. so being up there is lame since you would (usually) help your team more from the inside. now if you kill some1 from up there he is not prepared for that shot most of the time. that is because you can not expect a shot from there since it is silly to go to the roof due to the fact that you do too less damage up there.
so while this brave defender tries to hold the base he gets killed from a shot out of nowhere. he will attach back in base in no time and you will still be up there. he just got lamed by you.

[Jerome Scuggs]

Re: Laming

Originally posted by RING LORD
Usually I try to fly by a ship that spawns but most of the time I get killed. This is a frustrating part of the game but oh well, I try..

thank god for you.

In most zones, 'laming' its death by bullet. The norm is 1-hit bomb kills, using sprays of bullets to weaken a opponet or fake him. This isnt so in my case, I had a 200-30 rec in a super-"flagging"-zone once on bullet kills alone. This is why its called laming--you can rep their bombs, and bulletcharge them as they repel bacl, so when they finally get under control, theyre shredded by a bullet hail.

Hmm, Ithink laming in TW can refer to basically any social no-no--constantly expressed in terms frequently used such as "vulching", "teaming", "spawning", and in general "beating someone".

[Vitron2]

Ok first off I like the way you didn't come in here whining and complaining. .......

ERmmm anyways, although you are on the roof "helping your team by killing enm". It is 'lame' to sit on roof and not be with your team on the front lines. Check out a good ?go base game, think about if you had two or four of your team mates on the roof - Yes they kill an enm every once in awhile. But since you can't enter base from roof they just re-attach, and the only thing that goes up is your bounty/score.

The biggest thing is you arn't actualy helping your team. The term laming (if used in team chat or somthing) is used if somone is sitting in mid with a Lanc. firing into the fr entrance battle (aka using your team as a shield). The definitions go on and on, you'll learn as you go though.


Vitron

[Troll King]

A lot of people spawn kill because, as they say, they will likely get killed themselves if they don't.


Fair enough, but how does that justify spawnkilling a shark? I mean, if you get spawnkilled by a shark in open space, you've got bigger problems to worry about.

[froedrick]

TK throwing it down.

[RING LORD]

Cool, thx for the info and sorry again if the question had already been asked.

Just a suggestion but a 2 second no shoot/no die period after spawn would help with the spawning. Maybe it's too hard to code that but iIt would get you moving and give you a chance...

Thanks again and gl all

[za gophar]

if i spawn in someone's line of fire i warp or attach.. does pretty well.

[Jerome Scuggs]

usually I just go mafia and hunt the spawner 3-4 times, and leave the arena.

[pv=nrt]

i spawn kill in pubs so that i can use my macros more often.

[IL-76]

IMO, I don't think laming exists as long as you are helping take/defend base. WB on the roof is fine for defense and attack. If you can kill the defense from the outside/roof and weaken defenders for your Terr to enter, you are basing pure and simple. That is the core of the word "trench" in trench wars.

IMO, laming mainly exists in spawn area. Hunting levis, spawnhunting in ANY ship, radar firing in WB'... all lame as hell. Some A-hole tried to tell me he was basing by killing me before I could head toward the base. Whatever.

One way to protect yourself when you spawn, just have a finger on the warp button ready to go along with thrust when you warp. Too bad this leaves you uncharged in front of another lame-ass sometimes.

It boils down to the Pub Room is a learning zone for beginners and sometimes that doesn't mix well with people that want to base.

Laming and spawning should be expected in pub rooms and IMO, I don't care because the more people that discover TW, the longer it will live and be available for the rest of us to play.

[Jeansi]

Anything shot by person A that takes the life of person B makes person B think that person A is lame.

Just ignore it. Most players in pub are 10 year olds who think they are really cool and think they can own the world if they say so in an internet chat.