Assistant limit! Vote now!

[Fit of Rage]

if you make the limit "unlimited", what's the point of even having assistants because 95% of the squads out there would be all assistants + 3 capts.

Exactly.

[demonfaze]

I think 5 is enough. With unlimited a-c's, im sure on a lot of squads you'd get a bunch of members asking and bugging you to make them an a-c. Atleast with a limited number they will see that all the a-c spots are taken and won't ask (or won't ask nearly as much).

Also what someone brought up in a earlier post, with unlimited a-c's it could get extremely annoying if you keep getting challenged by the same squad by different a-cs on the squad. Keeping the a-cs at 5 will keep the squads more organized.

[concealed]

i have all the same arguements as Demonfaze, but i think they should the limit to 8. just because it is a better number for larger squads.

[ogron]

re-poll this with only 2 options

yes

[Weaver]

re-poll this with only 2 options

No point. If I did repoll there would still be 3 options, No, 8, and unlimited. So the only votes that would change would be the 5% who voted for 10 which isn't enough to break the tie. If its tied like it is now, we'll just go with 8 for starters.

[Noah]

No limits.. What the hell does it hurt anyone else than the squad itself if they have to many assistants? The "Sorry, no asscaps on" reply when you ask for a TWD is just plain unneccesary.. I also remember being on squads where we had ppl on all wanting to get a game, but afk assistants etc.

Having 8 is better, but still a limit.. Again.. Who cares if a squad has 8 or 9 assistants? Personally I'd like Sk8 to have as many assistants as I trust to not hopping.. Just so that any 4 players can get a game..

But maybe a captain decision should override the assistant decision when picking out lineups and such..

Edit: For dfazes argument on multiple challenges from a squad I agree, but it can be fixed.. And it should be fixed nomatter how many assistants a squad can have.

:Matchbot666:!challenge Disoblige
Matchbot666> Squad already challenged.
:Matchbot666:!addplayer
Matchbot666> Challenge changed to 5v5.
:Matchbot666:!removeplayer
Matchbot666> Challenge changed to 4v4.
:Matchbot666:!removechallenge Disoblige (Cuz they are so damn new)

[Weaver]

No limits.. What the hell does it hurt anyone else than the squad itself if they have to many assistants? The "Sorry, no asscaps on" reply when you ask for a TWD is just plain unneccesary.. I also remember being on squads where we had ppl on all wanting to get a game, but afk assistants etc.

Having 8 is better, but still a limit.. Again.. Who cares if a squad has 8 or 9 assistants? Personally I'd like Sk8 to have as many assistants as I trust to not hopping.. Just so that any 4 players can get a game..

But maybe a captain decision should override the assistant decision when picking out lineups and such..

Edit: For dfazes argument on multiple challenges from a squad I agree, but it can be fixed.. And it should be fixed nomatter how many assistants a squad can have.

:Matchbot666:!challenge Disoblige
Matchbot666> Squad already challenged.
:Matchbot666:!addplayer
Matchbot666> Challenge changed to 5v5.
:Matchbot666:!removeplayer
Matchbot666> Challenge changed to 4v4.
:Matchbot666:!removechallenge Disoblige (Cuz they are so damn new)

Captains overriding asst commands? Sounds like a waste of time, if the captain can't control his own assistants then they shouldn't be assistants.

The challenge system is fine, challenge 5v5 if you have 5 and 4v4 if you have 4. The !addplayer function does not need to be added into the challenges, it works great as is.

What would be nice is if the bots looked at currently pending challenges before sending out a challenge, that way squads wont get spammed with challenges from multiple assts. Hmm..

[Randedl]

i don't necessarily see twd assistants as the equal of a squad assistant captain.

you have 3 captain spots. . . i'm sure that any squad with a hierarchy-based system will be fine with 3 guys who can do the captaining.

the assistants on the twd roster are there to get twd matches. 99% of the time the guys who are on the most and begging for matches the most will end up with these spots. if not, your captain is doing a poor job at managing the roster.

viewing the twd assistant captain slot as a well-earned, respect based position would be redundant. you already know who the guys who deserve respect are - they don't need a gold coloured (A) next to their name to know it.

figure out a way to avoid spamming 1 squad with challenges, and then take off the assistant captain limit.

any decent squad captain is capable of knowing who should have !challenge powers on their squad. that's basically all an assistant can do anyways.

[ignite ignite]

I think your arguement sucks. You seem to be forgetting that the captain is still the person responsible for appointing assistants. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that captains are only going to give the powers to people that they trust. There are squads out there who are a tight enough bunch that almost everyone on it could be an assistant. There are also squads out there where only one or two people might qualify to be an assistant. IMO, the decision of how many assistants a squad can have should be entirely up to the captain.

Most squads out there aren't a tight enough bunch that almost everyone on it could be assistant captain. In fact in most squads you got new people joining and leaving every week and how the hell can you trust people so much over an online asteroids game.

[King Baba]

Don't let them into your squad right away, pick and choose as opposed to being lazy and spamming everyone to join.

[lecherious young gun]

This is slightly on a different tangent but could you add a command that would let non assi/caps sub into games on a game by game basis? It would make life so much easier i think because 9/10 times you die at least once subbing someone in if you are in the game.

[Weaver]

I think your arguement sucks. You seem to be forgetting that the captain is still the person responsible for appointing assistants. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that captains are only going to give the powers to people that they trust. There are squads out there who are a tight enough bunch that almost everyone on it could be an assistant. There are also squads out there where only one or two people might qualify to be an assistant. IMO, the decision of how many assistants a squad can have should be entirely up to the captain.

Most squads out there aren't a tight enough bunch that almost everyone on it could be assistant captain. In fact in most squads you got new people joining and leaving every week and how the hell can you trust people so much over an online asteroids game.

You seem to be forgetting that the captain is still the person responsible for appointing assistants. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that captains are only going to give the powers to people that they trust. There are squads out there who are a tight enough bunch that almost everyone on it could be an assistant. There are also squads out there where only one or two people might qualify to be an assistant. IMO, the decision of how many assistants a squad can have should be entirely up to the captain.

[Cig Smoke]

Agreed. Its not like everyone on ur roster HAS to be (A). You will still have to apoint them on the TWD page like u do now. Besides i think ur wrong about not many squads being that tight. Im sure there is quite a few. Diso/pallies/GV/spastic/mambo could have every member on there roster as (A) probably. Im sure there are more too, im not there captains so i dont know, but thats just a guess.

[Awesome]

Not really awe. Im sure there are quite a few squads out there who wouldnt make every member an (A). Would u make every person on pirates (A)? I know Dice wouldnt (1 bc we got merce :P) and im sure others wouldnt either. Not every player is responsable enough to hold the responsability of getting games and stuff, and most squadcaptains know that, but for squads like pallies/spastic/sk8 with lots of members and ppl in multi-time zones it would be nice to have a fair amount of (A)'s.

which is why i said that you should be allowed to have 1/4 of ur squads total members be [A]'s. and no, i wouldnt put everyone as an [A] on our squad. i said 95% of the squads would, however i dont do what everyone else does if you havent noticed by now. i run my squad in my way. as for dice, i dont know (or care), the squad just started quite honestly. it's been around like 1 month, hard to say what cape would do. as for merce, setting him as [A] wouldn't be giving him the same responsibilities as shriek giving him a [C]

[Awesome]

Not really awe. Im sure there are quite a few squads out there who wouldnt make every member an (A). Would u make every person on pirates (A)? I know Dice wouldnt (1 bc we got merce :P) and im sure others wouldnt either. Not every player is responsable enough to hold the responsability of getting games and stuff, and most squadcaptains know that, but for squads like pallies/spastic/sk8 with lots of members and ppl in multi-time zones it would be nice to have a fair amount of (A)'s.

you disagreed with me here

then after fit of rage, demonfaze and perhaps a few others agreed with me later, you post this... basically agreeing with me....

Besides i think ur wrong about not many squads being that tight. Im sure there is quite a few. Diso/pallies/GV/spastic/mambo could have every member on there roster as (A) probably. Im sure there are more too, im not there captains so i dont know, but thats just a guess.

do you ever just make up your own opinion and then justify it instead of spitting out the devils advocate in every circumstance