TWD - Worthless

[Foreign]

TWD is just like elim. The difference between the two is that nobody has figured out yet that TWD is pointless (as it does not accurately measure skill), and in TWD refusing to fight is not against the rules. Just like in elim, all one must do to rise to the top is pick on the easy people. Elim, like TWD, also bring out the ego in most people who care about it. Some people I had no idea were so immature until TWD came about. Now there is more talking than playing, and trying to get a duel against a good opponent is comparable to solving an algebra problem by chewing bubble-gum, since all the top squads are usually busy beating up newbies or showing off their egos, while belittling most others. One team can refuse to duel the first team who challenges them, and pick an easier team to play instead. In my opinion, if a team is challenged by someone, they shouldn't be able to play with anyone but the person who challenged them in that division. For example, if Onix challenges ELusive to a TWDD, Elusive can't challenge or accept a challenge from anyone else in TWDD for a certain period of time. Another way to solve this problem would if for example Onix challenges Elusive to a TWDD and Elusive challenges/accepts another TWDD squad and plays, then Elusive should be required to play Onix at least once in TWDD in the next 3 days. THese may not be the best alternatives, yet I can think of no more. Regardless, if nothing is done, TWD will remain to be imbalanced and tempers will continue to flare, causing TWD to become (if it hasn't already) worthless as a function of the zone.

[Vihta]

I asked for a challenging system the first day twd started. Easiest way probably is to set it up by twdbot or twd site. Team A challenges team B. Now team B has to play A during the next 7 days or it's autoloss for B. The system needs to be build so it cannot be abused by lets say A challenges B and then refuses to play B during the 7 days getting easy win.

There would need to be limits so that a team cannot be challenged by more than say 2 squads at a given time. A restriction like Team A can only challenge squads that are within 100 points of their score or are only 5 spots higher/lower in the ladder.

my 2 €s...

[Mayo Inc.]

Oh ok thanks.

[Foreign]

The most recent evidence:

First of all, a conversation from TWD chat.

4:Big Ups> who wants twjd
4:merce> us
4:merce> we want jd
Time for some graphicized warzone! Ka-Ching! ?go warzone -WingZero <ER>
4:Big Ups> f u
4:Big Ups> anyone else
4:merce> COME ON
4:merce> U PUSSY
lambs entered arena
4:Utopia> cripples?
Utopia entered arena
lambs entered arena
4:Big Ups> anyone else.
4:Faith> cripples>do you guys suck, cause if not, we wont play you =)
Aprix entered arena
scrimmage vs. cripples will start here in 30 seconds
Indirect entered arena
Ria entered arena
Sphinktor entered arena
Nickname entered arena
4:Big Ups> f rampage too
Advanced Meow Mix entered arena
death row entered arena
Mr. Arrogant 2 entered arena
4:Faith> at least we play every squad
rip entered arena
4:Utopia> faith I think you need a hug
TWDD: scrimmage vs. cripples
Captains, you have 5 minutes to set up your lineup correctly
NOTICE: 5 minutes remaining.
stuckup entered arena
4:Big Ups> and a cookie
lambs in for scrimmage
Ria in for scrimmage
4:Faith> we're not as sensitive about our rec
Sphinktor in for scrimmage
Mekju entered arena
Aprix in for cripples
Indirect in for scrimmage
rip in for cripples
Utopia in for cripples
death row in for cripples
Nickname in for cripples
4:Utopia> and we are? we had a basing game vs diso today
cripples is ready to begin
4:Utopia> we wouldnt have played it if we were careful
4:merce> anyone want jd?
Arcane entered arena
4:Faith> why dont you play a good squad than utopia?
Javelin entered arena
4:Faith> mm, your silence speaks for itself..
code entered arena
4:Cut> *crickets*
4:Big Ups> lol
4:Faith> lolol, guys, go look at cripples previous games on site
Advanced Meow Mix in for scrimmage
HighTemplar entered arena
scrimmage is ready to begin
Both teams are ready, game starts in 30 seconds
Blueout has been enabled. Staff, don't speak in public from now on.
Vandroy entered arena
4:Faith> only good squads they played vs they lost.. ok
4:Cut> lots of people seem to be reading my post, but no replies hardly
Blueout has been enabled. Staff, don't speak in public from now on.
1:Cut> =)
4:Cut> =)
4:Utopia> and you say we dont play good squads. haha catcha
4:Cut> actually, 0
Go go go!
4:Cut> um scrimmage is a good squad?
4:Cut> i rest my case.
4:Utopia> they challenged us.
4:Cut> o, my mistake
4:Faith> well, you guys played like 3 out 30 games vs good squads
4:Utopia> as you can see from the history we have played against good squads. won and lost. so dont come telling we dont play vs good squads just because we dont play against your sorry asses
4:Cut> it would be perfectly fine if you didn't decline the good ones when the easy ones are available
4:Faith> utopia, you might wanna practice vs good squads, that way your squad wont get as humiliated once the league starts
4:Cut> the point is twd is flawed, and you are doing a great job of exploiting it. For that I must congratulate you.
BORG Leader entered arena
4:Utopia> i decline elu and rampage simply because I dislike you. I dont care if drow or some other asscap accepts. I wont
4:Faith> ok, so you're saying the other caps/cocaps will?
4:Utopia> i dont know, ask them
4:Faith> or is this a squad policy to make your rec seem better?
Cut> dd with ramp after this?
4:Utopia> no we dont have a squad policy
4:Faith> cut, copy and paste this conversation and put it on the bbs
4:Faith> and maybe the op's understand

Now to conclude with a list of all of Cripples played games:

TWD Dueling: Cripples only played TWDD with 3 squads who were at the time in the top 5 the division. They lost 2 of the games.

Feb 14 win vs. Kanji
Feb 13 win vs. Og Mages
Feb 13 win vs. Melee
Feb 13 win vs. LEGO
Feb 12 win vs. Scrimmage
Feb 11 win vs. Tactic
Feb 10 loss vs. Sk8
Feb 10 loss vs. Disoblige
Feb 09 loss vs. Value
Feb 09 loss vs. Tactic
Feb 05 win vs. A W L
Feb 05 win vs. Damn
Feb 05 win vs. Shriek
Feb 03 win vs. LEGO
Feb 02 win vs. Cold Knights
Feb 02 win vs. Cold Knights
Feb 01 win vs. UoF
Jan 30 win vs. WarPlanet
Jan 29 win vs. JARKOR
Jan 29 win vs. Burning Rose
Jan 28 win vs. Pallies
Jan 26 win vs. Dekai
Jan 25 win vs. LEGO
Jan 23 win vs. CabraL
Jan 21 loss vs. Pallies
Jan 21 win vs. BioTeX
Jan 21 win vs. Shriek
Jan 21 win vs. WarbirdKing
Jan 21 win vs. Omniforce
Jan 20 win vs. Have a nice day
Jan 17 win vs. British Squad
Jan 17 win vs. GHOST_SQ
Jan 16 win vs. Lenience
Jan 14 win vs. Pallies
Jan 14 win vs. Atheist
Jan 14 win vs. EagleKings
Jan 14 win vs. EagleKings
Jan 12 win vs. Melee
Jan 12 win vs. BioTeX
Jan 12 win vs. Stone
Jan 12 win vs. Sk8
Jan 11 win vs. LEGO
Jan 11 win vs. Disoblige
Jan 11 win vs. Stone
Jan 10 win vs. *Corp*
Jan 09 win vs. DragonGuard
Jan 08 win vs. Golden
Jan 07 win vs. Divine
Jan 07 win vs. Paladen
Jan 07 win vs. Camisade
Jan 07 win vs. Warpath
Jan 06 loss vs. Divine
Jan 06 win vs. whiterabbits


TWD Javelin: They have played only 2 of the top 5 teams, and Disoblige wasn't in the top 5 the time Cripples beat them.

Feb 15 win vs. Tactic
Feb 14 win vs. Kanji
Feb 13 win vs. After-Math
Feb 05 win vs. Stone
Feb 03 loss vs. Disoblige
Feb 02 win vs. FMM
Jan 29 win vs. Shriek
Jan 29 win vs. Burning Rose
Jan 28 win vs. Pallies
Jan 26 win vs. Disoblige
Jan 24 win vs. Betray
Jan 21 win vs. Ancients
Jan 21 win vs. Stone
Jan 21 win vs. Atheist
Jan 10 win vs. LEGO
Jan 10 win vs. Melee
Jan 10 win vs. Egyptian
Jan 09 win vs. Jav Gods
Jan 09 win vs. Fear
Jan 08 win vs. Vibrant
Jan 08 win vs. Stone
Jan 07 win vs. Stone
Jan 06 win vs. Pallies

TWD Basing: The only division they haven't leeched off of, and look where it got them.

Feb 15 loss vs. Disoblige
Feb 10 loss vs. Spastic
Feb 09 loss vs. whiterabbits
Jan 25 win vs. Dekai
Jan 25 loss vs. Mambo
Jan 21 win vs. Spastic
Jan 12 loss vs. whiterabbits
Jan 07 win vs. Fear

I mean nothing personal towards Cripples in this post. They simply illustrate the possibility to exploit TWD. Kudos to them.

[Mayo Inc.]

Oh ok thanks.

[Nickname]

We're big time cheaters for sure.

[Aprix]

rofl

[Foreign]

Originally posted by Kookie
We're big time cheaters for sure.

I did not call you cheaters. I simply showed how your squad (not being the only example) was able to use the system. The problem is not with your squad, and I have nothing against Cripples (even though some of you have something against me that I can't figure out). The problem is in the system.

[RiP]

We havent played vs good squads? we have beat most of the squads rampage lost to.. melee shriek etc....

We also played vs onix and elusive in javs tho the bots always seems to lagout when we r winning

[death row]

Cry me a river, fact is.. alot of us r lazy, we sometimes don't wanna try hard. But when we're in the mood we'll play. I remember fore when u were on athiest.. u challenged us.. we had jus played a match vs pallies who is currently int he top 5 in wb atm? not sure. we had our main guys on and we all wanted a challenge so we played. was it our fault one of ur retard players left during the match? you anaylize this SS game to much. TWD is.. here.. for whatever the squad is in the mood for. im sry your feelings got hurt that we didnt accept at the time. hopefully TWL will start up soon and we can get scheduled matches going. Now quit bitchin god you sound like my girlfriend.

[death row]

Here is another thing Fore can keep in mind. These bots aren't exactly great. We played Onix in javs.. win round 1 and bam! bot is gone. Ok Elusive? We played them win round one and bot lagged out. These things happen. Move on with your sorry life instead of wasting time and crying like a bitsh on these forums. Enough said, I thought you were better then that.

[Aprix]

bla bla bla.. . .etc

Agreed.

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

don't forget that Rampage had to call an smod to cancel a game against my squad because they were too afraid to play us.

how's that for exploitation?

[death row]

Originally posted by sTuPiD-gErBiL
don't forget that Rampage had to call an smod to cancel a game against my squad because they were too afraid to play us.

how's that for exploitation?

LOL gerbz
I mean wtf is faith and Fore's prob? Is Shriek bad? Is Melee bad? And if you say Melee is bad then dont forget Melee smashed Rampage. I have no problem with Rampage personally, you guys are definatly a good squad. But look at them, playing squads like titty trying to get free points? You see me posting about that shit? No because I honestly don't give a fuk about what other squads do or play. Only mine. Cya

[Nickname]

Originally posted by Foreign
I did not call you cheaters. I simply showed how your squad (not being the only example) was able to use the system. The problem is not with your squad, and I have nothing against Cripples (even though some of you have something against me that I can't figure out). The problem is in the system.

Well i got nothign against you foreign, you're 100% right.