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I was asked to write this up a little more professionally so here goes.
I'll start out by explaining the reasoning for this. I see alot of players on squads who just play one division of twd or two tops. I'd like to change that. and get as many people playing in each division as possible. The easiest way I seeing doing that is a slight change to the eol ranking system. Face it, who on there squad wants to play there jav line against some low ranking team in a dd an lose alot of points , no one in there right mind. But as a capitain/assist you feel guilty about not playing them or maybe even giving them a shot. To get around this I came up with the idea of a Ranging System.
How it works
Any squad 150 points above you the game is worth a max of 15points.
Any squad 75 points to 150 points game would be worth a max of 30points.
Any squad within 75 points would be worth 50 a max points.
(of course these could be set higher or lower)
Example on ladder
Your squad E of course
Squad.... points/ranking.......... game is worth a max of
A............2000........................15
B.............1950........................15
C............1800........................30
D............1780........................50
E............1750
F............1720........................50
G.............1700.......................50
H.............1650......................30
I..............1620......................30
J..............1500........................15
Example on ladder
Your squad B of course
Squad.... points/ranking.......... game is worth a max of
A............2000........................50
B.............1950
C............1800........................30
D............1780........................15
E............1750.........................15
F............1720........................15
G.............1700.......................15
H.............1650......................15
I..............1620......................15
J..............1500........................15
Example on ladder
Your squad I of course
Squad.... points/ranking.......... game is worth a max of
A............2000........................15
B.............1950........................15
C............1800........................15
D............1780........................15
E............1750.........................15
F............1720........................15
G.............1700.......................30
H.............1650......................50
I..............1620
J..............1500......................30
Effect this has on ladder
As you can see you will have to beat squads closer to your ranking to work your way up the ladder, making every squad play each other around there ranking, causing a better calculation for twl as well. Of course you can still play the higher squads or lower squads, its just not gonna help you as much, your gonna have to earn your way up.. And if your jav line wants to play a dd, they can also get a game against a lower ranking squad and if they lose it's not gonna kill your ranking.
Only thing im not sure about, is how much harder it will be to start a squad 3/4 the way thru season, and work your way up the ladder, so its gonna make you choose a squad earlier in season an stick it out, hopefully creating a more loyal squad. this might not be the case tho. only testing will tell.
How to implement into eol system
current eol rating
New Rating = Old Rating + K(W-P)
P = Probablitity of winning
K = Maximum rating change
W = 1 if the squad has won, W = 0 if the squad has lost
P = 1 / (1 + 10^(-difference_in_ratings / 400))
K = 50
example of this :http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=15162
change to eol rating.
basically all we would need to do is adjust max rating change. so if a squad is 150 points difference_in_ratings the max points possible would be 15 possible.
if difference_in_ratings >150 k=15
if difference_in_ratings <150>75 k=30
if difference_in_ratings <75 k=50
in this case any squad within 75 points of each other has the chance to win 50 points. of course this is still divided by the probablity(P). Giving you a little more points if you beat a team higher in ranking out of the 15,30,50 depending on the range.
Thoughts? I can already hear it now, leave it alone its fine, but in all honesty is it? I see fewer squads, hell i see fewer everything from 4 years ago? wouldnt you like to let some new person on squad an actually be able to put him in? without worrying about subing him? this is just a thought I had, Maybe it wouldnt work, maybe it would work just fine, ionno. Maybe its not worth discussing? but I thought I would bring it up.
I'll start out by explaining the reasoning for this. I see alot of players on squads who just play one division of twd or two tops. I'd like to change that. and get as many people playing in each division as possible. The easiest way I seeing doing that is a slight change to the eol ranking system. Face it, who on there squad wants to play there jav line against some low ranking team in a dd an lose alot of points , no one in there right mind. But as a capitain/assist you feel guilty about not playing them or maybe even giving them a shot. To get around this I came up with the idea of a Ranging System.
How it works
Any squad 150 points above you the game is worth a max of 15points.
Any squad 75 points to 150 points game would be worth a max of 30points.
Any squad within 75 points would be worth 50 a max points.
(of course these could be set higher or lower)
Example on ladder
Your squad E of course
Squad.... points/ranking.......... game is worth a max of
A............2000........................15
B.............1950........................15
C............1800........................30
D............1780........................50
E............1750
F............1720........................50
G.............1700.......................50
H.............1650......................30
I..............1620......................30
J..............1500........................15
Example on ladder
Your squad B of course
Squad.... points/ranking.......... game is worth a max of
A............2000........................50
B.............1950
C............1800........................30
D............1780........................15
E............1750.........................15
F............1720........................15
G.............1700.......................15
H.............1650......................15
I..............1620......................15
J..............1500........................15
Example on ladder
Your squad I of course
Squad.... points/ranking.......... game is worth a max of
A............2000........................15
B.............1950........................15
C............1800........................15
D............1780........................15
E............1750.........................15
F............1720........................15
G.............1700.......................30
H.............1650......................50
I..............1620
J..............1500......................30
Effect this has on ladder
As you can see you will have to beat squads closer to your ranking to work your way up the ladder, making every squad play each other around there ranking, causing a better calculation for twl as well. Of course you can still play the higher squads or lower squads, its just not gonna help you as much, your gonna have to earn your way up.. And if your jav line wants to play a dd, they can also get a game against a lower ranking squad and if they lose it's not gonna kill your ranking.
Only thing im not sure about, is how much harder it will be to start a squad 3/4 the way thru season, and work your way up the ladder, so its gonna make you choose a squad earlier in season an stick it out, hopefully creating a more loyal squad. this might not be the case tho. only testing will tell.
How to implement into eol system
current eol rating
New Rating = Old Rating + K(W-P)
P = Probablitity of winning
K = Maximum rating change
W = 1 if the squad has won, W = 0 if the squad has lost
P = 1 / (1 + 10^(-difference_in_ratings / 400))
K = 50
example of this :http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=15162
change to eol rating.
basically all we would need to do is adjust max rating change. so if a squad is 150 points difference_in_ratings the max points possible would be 15 possible.
if difference_in_ratings >150 k=15
if difference_in_ratings <150>75 k=30
if difference_in_ratings <75 k=50
in this case any squad within 75 points of each other has the chance to win 50 points. of course this is still divided by the probablity(P). Giving you a little more points if you beat a team higher in ranking out of the 15,30,50 depending on the range.
Thoughts? I can already hear it now, leave it alone its fine, but in all honesty is it? I see fewer squads, hell i see fewer everything from 4 years ago? wouldnt you like to let some new person on squad an actually be able to put him in? without worrying about subing him? this is just a thought I had, Maybe it wouldnt work, maybe it would work just fine, ionno. Maybe its not worth discussing? but I thought I would bring it up.
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