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[Hydride]

If you log on once a week, go "hey, we got a game? No, ok cya next week." then you are not helping, but are freeloading on the activity of the rest of the zone. I know there are people who do this, plenty of them. Perhaps if you all scheduled a time/weekday to all do this at once, you'd actually help get some games going. As it is now, we cant get games cause we got 2 online from one squad, 4 on another, 2 on Javsquad4, 6 on wbsquad7, etc..

Scheduling is very hard. Everyone seems to be very busy, and it's random as to when very busy days are for games and when there are days at a time with 0 games. If there were set days, that would be cool but lately there havent been. We can't just say to other squads "HEY GUYS SHOW UP OK?" a lot of us don't wanna wait 1 hour to NOT find a twbd match because there is noone else to play. I'd personally rather go spend my time playing another game or going to the gym, taking my dog for a walk. I try and mellow out with this game, but if theres no competitive basing match then I really am not gonna hangout and chat for an hour when I can go get entertained elsewhere.


Sucks, but its realistic. This cap will just ruin it for those players. Those great guys who we wanna put in the lineup every now and again because they show up (Such as starweaver, myself, Violence, etc) It's just gonna end up getting us axed, and we aren't gonna go find a squad because there won't be enough of an active core anywhere else and we dont have the time to go create a squad.

[Crescent Seal]

I voted on this idea before with the entire community and we decided NOT do this. It pushes casual players out of the twd experience. Sorry to be a heel but noooooo.

lol you aren't being a heel when the majority have the same opinion as you. but yeah apparently 3-5 staffers (half dont even leave spec) have complete say in twl.

[Crescent Seal]

nobody is questioning the act of making drastic changes. initiation from staff to do anything useful has been in question. big decisions like this need to be voted on instead of randomly being implemented 2-3 weeks before TWL starts.

[megaman89]

By getting axed it made me try harder to get on another squad and prove I was able to play with the vets.

You'll get there one day.

[Jessup]

I voted on this idea before with the entire community and we decided NOT do this. It pushes casual players out of the twd experience. Sorry to be a heel but noooooo.

[Shaddowknight]

People complained when I changed the forum rules. To date, nobody has exploded or been banned due to the changes.
Let's see how this works, and decide what to do next from there.

[Demonic]

People are always moaning for drastic change, here it is and look what happens - a bitchfest.....just give it a try at least, being pessimistic over any rule brought in that brings about change is half the reason over the last 7 years or so TW has failed to capitalise on good ideas which has lead to a bigger decline in population than was necessary. Let's just see what happens.

This is true, although an easier way to go would be to split twdd/twjd/twbd. Allow squad to register for interested league, and allow players to join diff squads for each league. So squad x could only be a twdd squad, squad y a twjd squad, squad z a twbd squad and player A could join squads x,y and z. However if squad wants to participate in all 3 leagues, any player signed up to that squad has to stick to them. This would make roster cap easier for 1 league squads, and also follow the TWL model a bit closer.

[Ricko]

People are always moaning for drastic change, here it is and look what happens - a bitchfest.....just give it a try at least, being pessimistic over any rule brought in that brings about change is half the reason over the last 7 years or so TW has failed to capitalise on good ideas which has lead to a bigger decline in population than was necessary. Let's just see what happens.

[Tiny]

I dont know why all of sudden you HAVE to play with every single one of your friends instead of against them. Your arguements are weak at best. Oh no! the newbs get axed. I was a noob before just like all of you. By getting axed it made me try harder to get on another squad and prove I was able to play with the vets, and it also made me create squads. Your assumptions that every newb and inactive vet will just roll over and die are just folly. If vets dont have the luxury of playing when they get on once a week, maybe they will get on more and maybe they wont. You can know until it happens. Being proactive is better than this boring lul of everyone stacking squads with friends and have 3 competitive squads. Get the fuk over yourself and think of everyone as a whole instead your immediate feelings and reactions.

[zidane]

i can see how this could be bad for inactive people who barely play like zeebu etc, it'll make it harder for them to stay on rosters. but honestly i think this could work out and cause more active squads. i think based on how the trend of the zone in the last few years it could be worth the risk of implementing this. kudos for finally trying to make a real change

[beam]

Staff just don't seem to understand how the game works. Just about all of you guys are not competitive and barely play the game at all and that's precisely why you should value the opinions of active players over your own. Obviously roster caps hurt bad and new players as has been stated several times because they are the ones who will be axed. More importantly, this game has always been about it's community and by adding a roster cap you are effectively telling people that they are not allowed to play with the friends they have been playing with for upwards of ten years which will result in them never logging in at all. What Shadowknight (lol ur a pubber stfu) said is true about them not contributing all that much to twd directly by logging on once a week but he is vastly undervaluing how meaningful it is for people to play that occasional game with their old friend.

For as long as I've played TW, twd has never been a competitive league. TWL has always been the least active time of the year for squads and twd activity with squads typically only having enough players to twd on the weekends. Imposing the same roster limit on twd is just asking for a decline in both twd activity and also player interest in the game. I'm sure I am not alone when I say that I have no desire to play the same 4 people with the same 3 teamates every single match. Before anyone makes some stupid comment about Laser, Play, and whatever other newbie pub squads there are, they don't impact normal players at all. I'd rather play pub than twd those ridiculously bad squads. If a squad was formed from the players we axe, they would just get added to this list of non competitive squads that no one wants to play.


tl;dr staff are newbies and want to kill the game

[fiS]

so reducing roster size for a basing squad is 'base'-ically(see what i did there?) going to kill twbd.

"base-i-killy" ***

[Cranium]

Dumb

for one this is stupid, if u guys want to base... type go twbd and challenge, have never seen a challenge from fierce in twbd. if duelers like to base... try basing and not bitching? refering to what glav said above: enemy currently has a 34 man roster, so i have to axe 9 ppl. 7 of those 9 people are never online so if u think by me taking my roster down to 25 ur gonna get someone worth wild... good luck with that.

last week with a 34 man roster we played: 14 basing games, 7 of which were on sunday. and 3 of those 7 days we didnt play any basing games... due to the fact that we didnt have enough online to play or other sqds didnt. so reducing roster size for a basing squad is 'base'-ically(see what i did there?) going to kill twbd.

how about u take a fuckin vote between captains and not just do what u want. dsb was apart of this and he is on my squad and i flat out told him it was a stupid idea and he told me he was going to do it anyways. tiny asked me a month ago what i thought, told him he was going to kill basing.

r.i.p. tw its been real.

[Crescent Seal]

this will further separate the veterans from the newbies who are trying to participate in twl. captains have no choice but to axe newbs now and newbs dont have it in themselves to create a new squad and why would they? they know they wont qualify for twl on their own (esp with a lower number of squads qualifying). this basically defeats the purpose of helping new players transition into twl. we have about 39 players on Wolf currently. Once those 14 newbies are axed, they wont get a chance to participate in twl and will most likely just go inactive and quit.

this also affects people who like to play a few games of twl with their friends. these people won't make a squad on their own and just go inactive. this "solution" doesnt do shit but irritate veterans and ruin the twd-twl transition/experience for new players. not sure why you idiots make these decisions without taking a consensus first. waste so much time arguing about this garbage when we shouldnt have to.

[Shaddowknight]

If you log on once a week, go "hey, we got a game? No, ok cya next week." then you are not helping, but are freeloading on the activity of the rest of the zone. I know there are people who do this, plenty of them. Perhaps if you all scheduled a time/weekday to all do this at once, you'd actually help get some games going. As it is now, we cant get games cause we got 2 online from one squad, 4 on another, 2 on Javsquad4, 6 on wbsquad7, etc..