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    I was drinking one night and came up with the idea of making a whole thread on basing legends. I know this isn't an original idea, but I think the way that I (with immense help from jerome and solace) list the all time greats is unique. The way we put it together was by tiers/categories, because everyone brought their own style to the game. I started around 2003 and had a hiatus around 2012-2015, so I will be missing some past and recent stars (forgive me). I would love for people to chip in and add players that I’m missing and discuss whether on not people should be on a list. It is very hard to rank these players because they played in different eras of the game and each made major impacts on how the game was played. We tried our best!

    Terrs:
    Tier 1:

    - Cape- I never had the pleasure of being on the same squad as Cape, but his resume speaks for itself. He help create the most dominate basing squad ever, so he must be doing something right.
    - Brookus- He was the best terr I have ever played with, hands down. His whole team could be dead, but somehow he stayed alive long enough to give his team a fighting chance. He was also boss at reading his sharks' reps and breaking cram. Alongside that he was a great captain and helped run A-S for years. Just don’t get him mad. You won’t like him when he is mad.
    - Warportal- He helped run one of the best basing squads when TWLB became a thing.
    - Mythrandir- Same thing as warportal, both great at terr in the early days
    - Mitch- See above
    - Dead Rain- DR helped Penetrate win their first LB title.
    - Cintra- Helped Penetrate win their second LB title
    - Mikkiz- This fucker is hard to kill. Probably the best terr left in the game

    Tier 2:
    - Dead Rain- DR helped Penetrate win their first LB title.
    - Tim- Was a great terr for Pandora.
    - Zizu- I’ve always rated the chap
    - Mikkiz- Same as above. This fucker was hard to kill.
    - Oderus Urangus- As of right now, the dude has moves
    - Pure Luck- Made a lot of errors in dodging. He died at some of the dumbest things, but he had a lot of tricks in his book which made it possible for him to win against any team.
    - Jebu- Very good terr. Played with him on basingcrew.
    - Everett- That –final- LB run


    Sharks:
    Tier 1:
    Za gopher
    Windreaper- He helped invent the cram, which ruined the game.
    Vatican Assassin- Great leader. I played with him on Pandora/heist and rejected basers. Great guy and a great leader. It was kind of funny watching him almost apologize for his squad for losing in the finals to dice when eelam and mouse ran their mouth. They played the villains very well.
    Stabwound
    A2m- this dude right here can rep bullets.
    Dwopple- Played with him in my basingcrew and syndicate days. This dude was aggressive as hell in the eight ship.
    Veloce-
    Fermata- Porkjet, this hot piece of ass. He mastered aiming his shrap, and semen.
    Zidane- I was afk for 3 years and this dude became a boss at shark. I only knew him as a top jav before.
    Mattey- Offensive shark. Can bomb the fuck out of a cram if the opposing sharks miss one beat.
    Panhandler + PaulOakenfold- They were just average alone, but they were the wonder twins when they sharked together. They just had incredible synergy.

    Tier 2:
    Miau- Old school shark.
    Greven- Another old school shark.
    Jeenyuss- Very intelligent shark. He helped create Penetrate and was an amazing leader/shark.
    Eggs R Evil- My memories of this man come from his spastic and disoblige days. This man had reps for days
    Fireballz- Will be remembered as a warbird, but should be respected as a shark. Him and dwopple led syndicate to the finals in LB.
    X Machine- The sex machine. This dude was a force for diso. Putting him tier 2 might be a crime.
    PH- became a great offensive shark
    Tabernack!!- an amazing offensive shark
    Jr5- This Brazilian fuck could lag through walls. But he was damn good at it.
    Credit Account- Was a great shark for Mambo.
    Apocalypse now!- Holy shit, I just remembered this dude’s name. He was very good.
    Spiders:

    Pushers
    Tier 1:
    - Megaman89- even though I have an A-S bias, this man definitely was the best spider I’ve ever played against. He was an amazing killer, but was the building block for Dice’s dynasty.
    - Holydude- Second best pushing spider imo. He was stupid good at breaking crams and winning fr battles with a td.
    - Solacer- I know he played under sometimes, but he is a top 20 spider of all time.
    - Nuudeli- fun to watch him run the tables at mambo
    - Jamal- He was annoying good, especially in his Spastic days
    - Hellkite- the dude just pushes the forward key and holds down control and he is very good at it.
    - Bram- Was a leader for diso’s spids.
    - Eelam- Love him or hate him, the dude went neck to neck with mm89 and the dice crew
    - Koan- He raped for –final-
    - Royst- He was a boss for Penetrate.
    - Tsumetai- Him and Royst merked people
    - Sarger- played with this boss at basingcrew. Top lad.
    - Banzi-
    - Ezo

    Tier 2:
    - Mouse- hard to put this man in tier 2. He might deserve a shout for tier 1. Him and eelam were annoying as fuck to deal with.
    - Hellzno!- Was a great spider for Pallies
    - lionheart- He was a great pusher
    - Trouper- that Pandora lineup would have beaten anyone… besides dice lol.
    - Nosey- He literally pushed forward and sometimes decided to push control
    - paska- idk where to put paska and suede, but they were hard to deal with
    - Ease- very good at spid. Not sure if he deserves to be this low.
    - jr5- his lag was amazing and his spiding was great too
    - spikey- his name says it all. Tremendous talent
    - kess- had some skill. People forget about him.
    - Anon- I remember playing this dude when he was on Spastic. Very solid spid.
    - Anidalife-

    Best Killers
    Tier 1:
    - Cripple- This guy has to cheat. He is like Hitler.
    - Lunch3- Him and cripple are the best killers in the game’s history imo.
    - Necromotic- Yeah, fuck this guys lag and skills.
    - Shayde- He hopped around on more squads than anyone I have ever seen, but the dude could kill
    - Leitz- He was a force for BasingCrew.

    Tier 2:
    - Jrahen- I want to put him into tier 1, but I think he just misses the cut. Its probably because each game depended on the amount of coke he snorts before a match.
    - Leitz- He was a force for BasingCrew
    - Roggan- Killed a lot of people
    - Nl>Trigger/Nl>Terminator- Idk which one is which, but one is really good at shark one is really good at spid
    - No One Can Kill Me- He could play any ship tbh
    - Glavitik- This man was always good, then something clicked and he became great.
    - Squallff8- ^ You could easily argue that glavitik and squall could go tier 1. Both are great, but I just don’t think they reached the tier 1 level.




    Campers
    Tier 1
    - Spybreak!- he could clear the FR from the spawn area. He had amazing aim and had amazing angles
    - Don’t Try to Resist- I remember in the height of the A-S/Spastic rivalry, this guy was a boss. He was an amazing killer
    - trasher- love this dude
    - Sika- he was just all around great.
    - Domi- He could be tier 1 or 2 in almost every ship.

    Tier 2
    - Cremation- he got very good at camping.
    - eeks- he pitched a tent or two and killed people
    - Nethilia- He had to have taken notes on Spybreak.


    Under
    Tier 1
    - Mikes- yeah, he is the grandfather of under apparently. A great dude/player
    - Zhou- my little azn friend is fucking good
    - Zung- gud at spider.
    - Spezza- kado describes him as “he’s a great aggressive under, has great aim, and can over amazingly. He will get mvp a lot of the time”. Jerome describes him as “I like hokki and probably gaY irl.”
    - Stayon- I’m not sure why his name isn’t up here. I’m not sure where to classify him as, but he is definitely not a camper. Dominate spid.



    Tier 2
    - Turmio- Penetrated a lot of people
    - Acidbomber


    Basebirds
    Tier 1:
    - Fire Phoenix- This mother fucker here. He was sooooo annoying if you played against him
    - Divine Rides- He could hunt a terr down

    Tier 2:
    - Kuukunen- I remember this dude in his mambo days

    Base Javs
    Tier 1:
    - No One Can Kill Me- It would suck to shark against this dude
    - Domi- by the time you saw his lag bomb, your team was dead
    - Necromotic- Lagged like hell. Like disgustingly bad.
    - Megaman89- He was a great base jav
    - 2dragons- O.G.
    - Pearl Jam
    - PH- That lag.
    Mythril> shayde why you gayer than aids now?

  • #2
    damn didn't make the cut.

    solid list overall.

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    • #3
      There are many current basers that are missing from this list. Like I said in my original post, I haven't played since 2011-2012, so I'm missing many current greats. I would love for someone to make a current "elite basers" list with tiers and categories. It is quite fun to make to be honest.

      Edits to this list:
      Ogron- apparently he isn't a tier 2 so he should be removed (coming from the man himself)
      dead rain- he should be placed in tier 2 terr, not tier 1
      ease- he started messing around with the spid ship around 2009-2010, but apparently he is a tier 1 spid now. IMO he is probably one of (if not) the best all around players to play this game. glad to see him master the green ship.

      This list is mainly tailored to basing LEGENDS. I made this list off of the knowledge from playing base religiously from 03-12. The reason I think this list holds so much weight compared to players who are great now is that these players were the pioneers. Let's not take away anything from players who are amazing now, but a lot of the current amazing players were not on the same level as most legendary basers at the time. I understand a lot of javs/wbs/dsb/eg players have flocked to base, but anyone given enough time and practice will become greater than their predecessors (ex. messi being a GOAT compared to cruyff/muller/maradona). I imagine if any of these players were still playing at the moment, they would be considered current greats. I think the best example is Stayon and Solace. Solace arguably the second or third best spid when Anti-Scrub won twlb their first season, but after holydude and spybreak retired, Solace quickly became the best spid. Now he is currently a top 10 spid easily (imo). Same with stayon. Stayon has always been an amazing spid, but would you consider him to be better than DTTR and other greats at spastic? It would have been very close to say the least. In today's game, he is a top 10 spid easily (imo). There is no disrespect in this, it is just facts. They have been given more time to practice, so of course they will be better. The fact is a lot of current players started around the same time as these legends, but these legends became more dominate much earlier and helped define what basing is today.

      I would be very interested in seeing some current greats (mattey/ease/zidane/spezza/solace/stayon/cape/stayon/dreamwin/ogron/etc) make a current great list. They will know more than me and I think the zone would enjoy the discussion it would create.

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      • #4
        second edit:

        oder should be removed from terr because he has never terred a twlb game. Ogron should be placed in his spot as tier 2 terr. He has won a twlb and deserves a spot there from what I have seen.

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        • #5
          I've been better than 90% of these the whole time.
          Same goes for Pressure.

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          • #6
            a bunch more

            Diakka <- huge
            Galleleo
            Endangered
            Condit
            Machine of God
            Yojo
            Cig Smoke
            Fit of Rage
            WingZero
            Predator FNM
            Anzu
            Maize
            Plob#f
            Mantra-Slider
            Madmaster
            Malladrin
            mr magoo
            Shivah
            pv=nrt

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            • #7
              oh and IMO the best basing was 2000-2006, so you kinda missed half of it :/

              edit: why?
              - basing happened constantly
              - there was strong competition from multiple squads
              - tactics were evolving
              - maps changed occasionally
              - fielding a wb, jav, lev! was a thing

              but now... it's just people repeating the same stuff they've seen other people do, and not understanding why they're doing it.
              Last edited by Rab; 04-02-2016, 08:09 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rab View Post
                a bunch more

                Diakka <- huge
                Galleleo
                Endangered
                Condit
                Machine of God
                Yojo
                Cig Smoke
                Fit of Rage
                WingZero
                Predator FNM
                Anzu
                Maize
                Plob#f
                Mantra-Slider
                Madmaster
                Malladrin
                mr magoo
                Shivah
                pv=nrt
                Frustrating thing about lists is it's hard to remember 20 fkn years' worth of players, especially since the average person has a different experience based on what squads you were on. You can tell pavement was on a-s and penetrate, you can tell Rab was on mambo/incuria :P

                In your list I bolded the names I think deserve to be considered truly great.

                These lists bring up a big question: do we have complete lists of all the rosters of all the squads that played in TWL over the years? Like, rosters as of TWL post hardlock for each season? I think it would be alot easier for us to go thru and pick the greats. Pavement's list clearly is missing some players, but it's not his fault because its hard to remember literally every person who ever played TW.
                NOSTALGIA IN THE WORST FASHION

                internet de la jerome

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                • #9
                  list updated since then
                  Last edited by ogron; 01-11-2020, 09:51 PM. Reason: out of date
                  top 100 basers list

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                  • #10
                    that feel when you are one of the few with full line of different teams in a spreadsheet. time to retire.

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                    • #11
                      I just used the old BWC website rosters I still have a copy of that old site...

                      Benelux
                      cap: Zerzera
                      ass: bram
                      ass: M_M God
                      Aim2kill
                      Ancient_Lore
                      Azhran
                      Biernoot <ZH>
                      BLeeN
                      cool koen <ER>
                      cundor
                      DOTSY
                      Due
                      Dutch_
                      Dutch Baser
                      Dyers eve <ZH>
                      Eggs R Evil
                      Endonyx
                      Galleleo
                      Greven il-Vec
                      I,Robot
                      incure
                      Jules-man
                      Leitz
                      Murphsy
                      Nycle
                      peach
                      Pixelsong
                      PjOtTeR
                      POiD
                      postzegel
                      Predator Rulez
                      Rodge_Rabbit
                      Sumpson
                      superstar-PROkiller
                      warportal
                      X Machine

                      Britain
                      cap: PaulOakenfold
                      ass: Rab
                      ass: Zeus!!
                      arwen_7
                      Attacks
                      Bigyin
                      British_Bulldogg
                      British Eagle
                      celp32
                      Cumulonimbus
                      Darkodin
                      denon
                      dim <ER>
                      DUMBRIT!
                      ElvenKing
                      Fairlights
                      FFLeader
                      Foxy
                      GoldenSun
                      h i m
                      IcER
                      Lain
                      Microstar
                      nemiseph
                      Redlights <ER>
                      Rion.
                      ShadowDragons
                      Skinster
                      Steelrose
                      Unrealistic
                      Vertigo5

                      Canada
                      cap: Adman
                      ass: Froedrick
                      ass: Stabwound
                      11001100
                      AcidBomber
                      Adamant
                      Ajaxee
                      Bahamut <ZH>
                      BossHawk
                      Buja X
                      CASTROMARX
                      Children
                      claushouse
                      Clearwater88
                      Coojma
                      Cops
                      Cries
                      Darkchristy
                      Dens
                      dll
                      Don't Try To Resist
                      Dr.Coiff
                      Dunce
                      Ethena
                      Everest
                      extreme.fatness
                      gob
                      HellzNo!
                      Hero
                      Hockeydude
                      Holydude
                      hurricane
                      I.d.i.o.t.
                      itsme
                      Jeenyuss
                      johz
                      Kim
                      King Baba
                      Kings
                      Knockers
                      Kolar
                      KSharpe
                      Machine of God
                      Mikena
                      Neth <ER>
                      Nosey
                      Nuby
                      Philos <ZH>
                      Randedl
                      Rinse
                      Ronin
                      Royst
                      Send
                      shoken
                      Smurf
                      Solemn
                      Soup du Jour
                      Spiderman
                      Tarriskat
                      Toasty
                      ToK
                      Torken
                      tyflyias
                      violence
                      Wbm
                      Weaver
                      Whir

                      East USA
                      cap: Fit <ZH>
                      ass: brookus
                      ass: Exotic
                      a2m
                      abstruct
                      Accord
                      AceJoker
                      AGAiN
                      Aggravate
                      Azuma
                      Brabus
                      Cig Smoke
                      Concealed
                      dchao
                      Direct
                      Decypha
                      DeMoNoFdArKnEsS
                      Deverse
                      Dynamism
                      ephemeral
                      fire phoenix
                      fso
                      geekbot
                      GundamAngel
                      ilyaz
                      imagine
                      Izor
                      Jacen Solo
                      JacKieChan>
                      Jamal
                      jr5
                      k-i
                      K2Grey
                      Lunch3
                      Megaman89
                      mikes
                      minkmink
                      Mondo
                      panhandler
                      Paramedic
                      poiuytr
                      Proof
                      public assassin
                      PUNK rock
                      Pure_Luck
                      Qyll
                      Rels
                      Revolt
                      Richard Creager
                      Roggan
                      RUCCI <ER>
                      Skynyrd
                      Solacer
                      SoLidiFy
                      Sprained
                      Spybreak!
                      T Mac-1
                      Tear Gas
                      The Baser
                      Treble
                      tw
                      Vehicle
                      Voth
                      With Ease
                      WorstPlayerEver
                      Yojo

                      Finland
                      cap: Pred_FNM <ER>
                      ass: Desperate
                      ass: Zyclon
                      Ara
                      arcane
                      Cheezuz
                      Connection
                      Cuji
                      Da1andonly
                      Dai Shan
                      Disqualifier
                      Dragonscale
                      exe
                      Exiili
                      feliz
                      Fides
                      fizzy
                      Golden_Aim
                      Graner
                      Hannes
                      IgotWorms
                      Jeansi
                      JeBu
                      Jones
                      Junker
                      Kaaosjumala
                      kibta
                      Lionheart
                      Logain
                      Luunatic!
                      Maize
                      Nakkisiili
                      Phrenitis
                      Puska
                      Server
                      Sheep
                      Storage
                      subby
                      tahkis
                      Veri
                      Windreaper
                      xvr

                      Rest of the World
                      cap: Underground
                      ass: Erias
                      ass: sCHOPe
                      Big Nail
                      ckpoon
                      Downdraft
                      evoce
                      GammaHydroxy
                      Herik
                      Horny Elf
                      Jrahen
                      kesser
                      lappos
                      leroy
                      Mega Newbie
                      Power of Love
                      Pressure Drop
                      Rund
                      Simple Mistake
                      Skyforger
                      Stayon
                      SwimKid
                      Volny

                      Sweden
                      cap: Jargha
                      ass: Ezo
                      ass: NAMNLOS
                      bloodzombie
                      CrvenBan
                      Degussa
                      emaho
                      Molgan
                      Rival
                      Whimp

                      West USA
                      cap: Vatican Assassin
                      A I
                      action_pup #3
                      apt
                      code
                      Cylor
                      Dameon Angell <ER>
                      Escalate
                      Final Hit
                      FLaBiN
                      gerry
                      Humidity
                      Jerome
                      Mad Hatter
                      Necromotic
                      Pearl Jam
                      Pio
                      ray j
                      rockman
                      Salubrious
                      Springy
                      Stain
                      Stripes
                      Sufficient
                      Threaten
                      Turbonium
                      Tyrome
                      X-sTa-C

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jerome Scuggs View Post
                        you can tell Rab was on mambo/incuria :P
                        Kemopetrol, No Surrender, Anti-Scrub, Sk8, Rejected Basers, Mambo, Disoblige/Dispalogies, Juice, Revenge, Enemy, Freebie, etc.
                        Kemopetrol was the best basing squad nobody remembers. I was their terr and we wiped the floor with brookus/a-s all the time.
                        Last edited by Rab; 04-03-2016, 12:35 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Found the No Surrender roster on the old website:



                          404 Not Found - Captain
                          Mr Magoo - Co-Captain
                          Rab - Co-Captain
                          Anticapitalist - Member
                          Aquatiq - Member
                          Assisin - Member
                          BananaKing - Member
                          Bioture - Member
                          BORG Leader - Member
                          ckpoon - Member
                          Corpsecreator - Member
                          deadlyaardvark - Member
                          elemental - Member
                          EliteAk - Member
                          Fluffz - Member
                          iLDuce - Member
                          Jamal - Member
                          Rukus24 - Member
                          Sgt. Wang - Member
                          Shivah - Member
                          Skate - Member
                          slz - Member
                          SonOffMagoo - Member
                          TelCat <LG> - Member
                          TW Cyberpanther - Member
                          Vampz - Member
                          whytefang

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                          • #14
                            Mambo roster from old website:



                            Predator_FNM - Captain (C)
                            Credit Account - Co-Captain (C)
                            B.RabbiT - Senior Member
                            Big Nail - Senior Member
                            Evul Fly - Senior Member
                            gmelchior - Senior Member
                            Maize - Senior Member
                            Rab - Senior Member
                            superstar-PROkiller - Senior Member (A)
                            WingZero - Senior Member
                            Ancient_Lore - Member
                            Anticapitalist - Member
                            Chino - Member
                            DantZu - Member
                            Diakka - Member (A)
                            dyers eve - Member
                            Ephemeral - Member
                            Fairlights - Member
                            fizzy^ - Member (A)
                            Greven - Member
                            Kairyu - Member
                            Kingz - Member
                            Mulkero - Member (A)
                            Ri Armada - Member
                            Storage - Member (A)
                            sub_title - Member
                            sweet leaf - Member
                            Veripalttu - Member
                            Zyclon - Member
                            (A) = TWD/L Assistant

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                            • #15
                              Diso roster from old website:

                              Aim2kill (LB)
                              Ara
                              bram (LB)
                              Da1andonly
                              Desperate (LB)
                              Displaced
                              Ephemeral
                              Ezo
                              Jack
                              Jonas
                              K2Grey
                              Koan
                              Left_Eye
                              Lemon
                              Little Chaos
                              Mantra-Slider
                              Miau
                              Mootland Farmer
                              NaiLed
                              No one can kill me
                              paranoia
                              Pioneer!
                              Power of Love
                              Rab
                              Shin-Ra
                              Shop
                              Smack man
                              SwimKid
                              Tobe
                              Viceroy
                              Wah!!
                              warportal (LB)
                              Windreaper
                              X Machine (LB)

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