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  • raise *cap for basing.

    Basing numbers according to today's rating sheet.

    175 currently signed up.
    1,363 total *'s
    7.79 avg * rating

    Individual star counts:
    19 at 10*
    10 at 9.5*
    10 at 9*
    26 at 8.5
    17 at 8*
    28 at 7.5*
    27 at 7*
    8 at 6.5*
    30 at 6*


    However for the highest 80 players we have
    716 total *
    8.95 avg *

    I realize not everyone will show every Sunday but with an avg of almost 9* rating for top 80 basers, 66* cap or even 67* cap might be too low for this DT.

    Here is something Ogron put together as an example of some teams for this DT showing their * counts.

    https://gyazo.com/c359a31f41b50d7a589b0733ed8a8997

    We need to raise the basing cap, but to how high? Depending on show rates we might be able to push this to 70* cap. What do you guys think? beam WillBy
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  • #2
    currently looking into raising wb/jav cap to 41 and base to 67* need to research a little more before making a decision but its clear 66 is too low for base
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    • #3
      There are 3 options for the star cap:
      1. No star cap
      2. A star cap to prevent stacking one league
      3. A star cap to allow newbies to play at the expense of vets

      Here's my usual example of using formulas to calculate star caps:

      2. A star cap to prevent stacking one league

      The sum of the top 50 wb ratings is 428.5
      Divided by 10 teams = 42.85 rating
      Rounded to .5 = 43

      The sum of the top 50 jav ratings is 430
      Divided by 10 teams = 43 rating
      Rounded to .5 = 43

      The sum of the top 80 base ratings is 716
      Divided by 10 teams = 71.6 rating
      Rounded to .5 = 71.5

      3. A star cap to allow newbies to play at the expense of vets

      Take the numbers from #2 and multiply them by some made up number to express how much you want newbies to play at the expense of vets.

      Code:
      1.00: Wb: 43   Jav: 43   Base: 71.5
      0.99: Wb: 42.5 Jav: 42.5 Base: 71
      0.98: Wb: 42   Jav: 42   Base: 70
      0.97: Wb: 41.5 Jav: 41.5 Base: 69.5
      0.96: Wb: 41   Jav: 41   Base: 68.5
      0.95: Wb: 40.5 Jav: 40.5 Base: 68
      0.94: Wb: 40   Jav: 40.5 Base: 67.5
      0.93: Wb: 40   Jav: 40   Base: 66.5
      0.92: Wb: 39.5 Jav: 39.5 Base: 66
      0.91: Wb: 39   Jav: 39   Base: 65
      0.90: Wb: 38.5 Jav: 38.5 Base: 64.5
      My opinion:
      - 66 was too low in base, so that should have been 67.
      - Adding .5 ratings has resulted in ratings being inflated.
      - 40/40/67 is too low because it doesn't account for rating inflation.
      - Rating inflation occurred in all three leagues, but base was the most affected and it has larger teams so should be increase from 67 more than wb/jav is increased from 40.
      - How about 41 / 41 / 69 ?
      Last edited by Rab; 07-13-2020, 04:58 AM.

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      • #4
        Couple of preseason games wouldn't hurt. Have to get this right to make it enjoyable.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rasaq View Post
          Couple of preseason games wouldn't hurt. Have to get this right to make it enjoyable.
          ideally youd want to make certain they are set before the caps draft. it heavily plays into drafting strategy


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rasaq View Post
            Couple of preseason games wouldn't hurt. Have to get this right to make it enjoyable.
            Delay the season a few weeks... No need to rush into it as people know its gonna happen. A lot of people would like to enjoy rest of the summer doing something else than spaceships, including me
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            • #7
              I agree with the star limits rab mentioned (41/41/69)
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              • #8
                If some of the base ratings are lowered as per suggestions from other players, I feel 68-star cap might be the way to go for basing. This also takes into account the fact that there's essentially 0% chance that all teams can consistently field their best teams, thus it will let more 6 to 7.5 star players play which is good for the competition. It would result in closer and more competitive matches.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dreamwin View Post

                  Delay the season a few weeks... No need to rush into it as people know its gonna happen. A lot of people would like to enjoy rest of the summer doing something else than spaceships, including me
                  Not just about the signups, but on the the general activity itself. People won't be magicly gone in 1 month, forum is active, the ones who got lured into signing will be reminded again and most will surely not forget.

                  More time, more signups, possibility of 12 teams, more time to prepare the league, ratings, pre-season, predictions, resolutions, HoN, bots and maps.

                  And with the quarentines that happened and with the possibility that they could return, there will be alot of people getting fresh air. Covid, sadly in a way, might give us another boost of activity later on as well. Just seems less logical to make people play in the 2 less active months of the year that correspond to people's vacations and outdoor activities. Some will manage, but you'll lose mans on Sundays if it's now, because there's also a higher possibility for un-scheduled things to come up on weekends for people, harder to predict compared to Autumn and Winter.

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                  And yes, base cap needs to be 68-69, 67 at the very least.
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                  • #10
                    41 wb/jav, 68 base

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                    • #11
                      68.5

                      aside from 10's, majority of ratings are ".5", thus would be good to cater the rating system towards this


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                      • #12
                        agree with 67.5 - 68.5

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                        • #13
                          Down with 68-69. 68.5 is probably reasonable.

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                          • #14
                            have to account for players not be able to show every sunday and even in ogron's mock draft there's a team that can only show 68.5 with max star lineup and that's under ideal circumstances with a good split of players so 68.5 is too high but its possible 68 could be ok but im still leaning more towards 67 or maybe 67.5
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                            • #15
                              feel like some of the sharks need to be bumped down to 9 from 9.5 and base cap at 67.5 or 68.

                              41/41/67.5 or 68
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