the real problem...

[Luckily Yours]

pallies, -f-, syndicate, shriek, grapevine, disoblige, sk8

are all solid contenders all around.

then u got the squads that specialize in 1 league only who are not good overall but good at that specific league.

i think u got a pretty competitive season since those 7 above will comepte beetween themselves and all the other matchups are a toss up, mysticalz vs avalonians is pretty close, its still competitive but not on a top level

[Violence]

you cant say grapevine is a more all around contender then rapid is because they have never beaten us at jd and we have beaten them many times.

and in wb id say we are about even with the slight edge to us, if you go by the history between the 2 squads.

[Mattey]

and Mattey, the skill this season is spread into about 5 squads total per leauge, unless youre saying it was only 3 last year, that saying is flawed

There were 2 good squads last year with a legitimate shot at the TWLD title. Now there are at least 5. The talent is a lot more spread out.

[Gemfire]

still....thats...5....room for....16.....

[Mattey]

No, what I'm saying is there are 25 good people evenly distributed among 5 good squads so that there remains good 5v5 duels.

[Awesome]

you cant say grapevine is a more all around contender then rapid is because they have never beaten us at jd and we have beaten them many times.

and in wb id say we are about even with the slight edge to us, if you go by the history between the 2 squads.

the difference is that grapevine will probably last until atleast the end of the season

[King Baba]

Who says I won't start in any TWL games? Not Rand. Not yet, at least.

[Randedl]

you cant say grapevine is a more all around contender then rapid is because they have never beaten us at jd and we have beaten them many times.

and in wb id say we are about even with the slight edge to us, if you go by the history between the 2 squads.

your javs are north american, our javs are 90% euro, your javs play our wbs in javs.

you don't compare in warbirds. no ego, just the honest truth, especially once the lag limits hit.

[Gemfire]

Still Mattey, that means good competition between the top 5 squads...and noone under those top 5 have a chance since all the good talent is there =p

[Mattey]

Which was my original point.

[Gemfire]

and my point is why not just have 5 squads then if thats the only place the good players are.

[Randedl]

when i started melee from the ground up again, we just played games against anybody and got good as a group.

this is a video game, it's not a genetic "you are stronger or better endured than others". anybody who puts enough work into the game can become good.

the reason that decent people group together is a culmunaction of leadership (tyvm), comraderie, mutual interests, mutual effort in the game, and some other random stuff. . .

[Gemfire]

Kind of hard to get better when the only way is to play people your level to a little better, getting crushed isnt any fun to anyone...and hard to learn if you have to play newb squads to win...since all the good people are in those 5 squads.

[Adeon]

culmunaction

Randedl - So elite, he doesn't go to the words, the words come to him.

[Mattey]

Kind of hard to get better when the only way is to play people your level to a little better, getting crushed isnt any fun to anyone...and hard to learn if you have to play newb squads to win...since all the good people are in those 5 squads.

You learn by getting beat, and a 5 squad league wouldn't be fun because intermediate squads should be able to participate too. Plus, there are always upsets.