TWL Bots vs. Squads

[NaiLed]

nailed and stabwound, i wasn't whining about the bots... i was reporting bugs...

as you will see, the host (predator rulez) clearly agreed with me.

calm down

sorry, the post was aimed at everyone

[Bosshawk]

we were told u had to use the mod to sub.....

but i would like to point out that 30seconds is too damn long for a sub to be processed....

i tried in both jd and dd to do subs, and by the time they were processed the guy had been spawned a couple more times and instead of subbing a guy with 5 deaths he had 8

couldnt we cut that back to like a 15 second process or something? 30 is just way too long

[Nickname]

sorry, the post was aimed at everyone

How dare us whine that here, on TWL's 7th go around, they still can't get a bot to do what it's supposed to do.

[Hercules]

I never talk, but here go's

Alright, besides the fact that I have never posted anything on tw forums ever, I would just like to say you people need to chillax. Im a little pissed we got f'd over by the bots, but thats what preaseason is for. I just hope the TWL ops get on the problems and fix the bots before next week because I dont want to lose the same way. Anyways, egyptian, you guys got a lucky break.
and pirates, i just wanna say YARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rob Dougan]

How dare us whine that here, on TWL's 7th go around, they still can't get a bot to do what it's supposed to do.

Yeah, damn lazy volunteers can't get their shit straight. What the fuck is their problem? You'd think people who give up their free time to work on this rather sophisticated problem would take more pride in their work. I say we fire the lot or at least demand a refund.

Yes, the above is tantamount to calling you a whiny ass.

[NaiLed]

How dare us whine that here, on TWL's 7th go around, they still can't get a bot to do what it's supposed to do.

[THE PUSHER]

Nickname after all knows everything. He has the inside word on all that goes on.

On a lighter note, I'm working up a list of the projects and bugs we need to attend to. We've got people in place so the fixes shouldnt take too much time. Stay tuned for some announcements.

-PUSH

[Luckily Yours]

actually the twl 6 bots were fine, however that is wat preseason is for, correct these bugs.

one other thing, when i see domi mvping with 8-6 ove a 13-4 joe and a 19-10 sika, i know something is wrong, please change that dumb formula made by whoever(i think fon).

last seasons mvps were pretty good, win minus losses, not counting tks as win, and if tied the tiebreaker would be number of tks. that was perfectly fine.

[Jason]

Just to recap:

• Reports of assigned captains not being able to use the !sub command
• 2 for 1 death bug - player is marked as being outside of base too long immediately after spawning
• Issues with 30 second sub processing, a lot can happen in 30 seconds whilst you wait for the sub to kick in (as pointed out by BossHawk)
• 60 second wait after a lagout in LB, Retarded with a capital R, especially since basing has become TIME SENSITIVE
• Scoreboard in LB matches reading in only seconds, not really a bug, but it's a pain in the ass to constantly divide by 60 in your head, a mm:ss format is preferred

I think that pretty much sums up everyone's problems/complaints/issues with the bots. The only two issues that are debatable are the 30 sec sub issue and the 60 sec lagout issue. I agree wholeheartedly with BossHawk on the 30 sec sub issue. 15 seconds is a much more reasonable amount of time. As for the 60 second lagout issue, this too should be only 15 seconds in my opinion. And I think there should be a maximum of somewhere between five and ten lagouts allowed per player. This keeps you from getting screwed when a couple of your players lagout at the same time (poor Pallies) but it also prevents a team from abusing the system by playing laggy shits. If they want to try that, their guy only gets the 5-10 shots at it, and then he's out.

[Awesome]

Jason, 5-10 lagouts is way too much. 3 lagouts per player per game is more than enough. If they're laggier than that, they shouldn't be in there.

And on your recap, you missed a small point:

4 Minutes to use !lagout before you're disqualified AND CAN NO LONGER SUB THE LAGGOT is stupid. Please don't put a time limit on that or atleast let us use sub for the player who cannot return =/

[Jason]

I did indeed miss that one point, and I agree with your take on the subject. As for the 5-10 lagouts, I forgot to mention that I would only like to see that in TWLB, simply because basing matches are laggier than dueling matches by nature. In LD and LJ, I agree with you. Three lagouts is sufficient.

[Kim]

Wow thats some suckage on the bots part. Too bad i wasn't there :-/

[JeBu]

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST F*CKING THINK I HAVE EVER HEARD. I COULDNT EVEN PLAY MY OWN TWLJ MATCH CUZ OF THESE STUPID BOTS, I HOPE YOU FIX THEM SOON, OR INSTEAD OF HAVING EVERYTHING AUTOMATED, WHY DONT YOU DO LIKE PREVIOUS SEASONS AND HAVE MODERATORS DO IT, WITH JUST BASIC BOTS TO SPEC PEOPLE AT 10 DEATHS...ANYWAY WHATEVER...

ON A SIDE NOTE, IF I SEE ANY EGYPTIAN PLAYER BRAGGING ABOUT THEIR DEFEAT AGAINST US, I AM PERSONALLY GOING TO FLAME YOU, SO STFU ABOUT IT, YOU DIDNT WIN ANYTHING, YOU JUST GOT LUCKY CUZ THE BOTS F*CKED US OVER...

-A VERY PISSED OFF SKY

it didn't work there was newb refs. i think example ?go base bot !sub and !switch and other commands work fine why dont just copy them and change a bit?