TWLM - again

[Jz-]

and for the part where u Search Players...
can u make it so that 2 letter names players can search themself
cuz heck... i type in my name and it says Player name have to be 3 letters or more
wtfz =(

[Server]

thats stupid, a 12-6 agaisnt a sheeet squad is still decent if you are fighting for kills with 4 other players. How do you expect your value to go up when you are playing a game with players like blood, koan, scuzzy etc... and you're playing against whipe. I went 12-5 and it counteed twice, and it says i went down $40.

This isnt a game where you get your own value high. This is a game where you need to think how you get profit. I've posted the formula many times here. Enemy lineups average value is one of the things that effect. You cant say it's same to play 12-6 against whipe than 12-6 against final. If you cant do better than 12-6 agaisnt "sucky" squad.. Then you arent worth enough to get your value increase. But c'mon.. you're playing with blood, koan, scuzzy.. and you die 6 times against whipe? tsk tsk...

[Server]

One thing that might have fucked those up is that anzu havent updated the squads in twlm. And i cant do it.

[Displaced]

this is probably a moot point but i went up around 40 after my 9-4 vs avalonian. surely a 9-4 vs avalonian is not "much" better than a 12-6 vs asevoimat.

both squads are new to twl, and both squads suck.

id just like to know how it works, i dont really care about twlm anymore.

[Server]

if you dont care i wont tell you a thing ... :P hehe.. jk...

[Server]

I'll post this formula one more time :P

YourNewValue = yourValue + ((kills - deaths) + ((enemyValue - yourValue) * ConstantA) + ConstantB) * ConstantC

[Displaced]

ok im no maths genious but that formula looks to me like it is flawed.

lets just say my current value during that game is 500 (its not but for the sake of argument) and everyone on asevoimat is say 200.

YourNewValue = yourValue + ((kills - deaths) + ((enemyValue - yourValue) * ConstantA) + ConstantB) * ConstantC

thus

YourNewValue = 500 + ((12-6) + ((200-500) * Constant A) * Constant B) * Constant C

New Value therefore = 500 + (6-(300*X))

thus it would be impossible for me to get a positive score (even if i got a score of 20-0) unless one of the constants is negative.

now with my real rating of 309 for me to be able to get a positive increase (again im assuming that enemy value is 200) i would have to have got atleast a rec of 110-0 which would have increased my value by +1. (now im assuming that the constants are all 1, in reality i suspect that they are lower.)

again, lets take the "opposite" situation, shit squad plays übersquad.

lets say i have a rating of 200, and the other squads average rating is 500, i could play a game of 0-10 and still go up in value.

YourNewValue = 200 + ((0-10) + ((500-200) * Constant A) * Constant B) * Constant C

i would go up atleast 290 if all of the constants are 1.

is it at all possible for you to post the constants so we can see exactly how this works? (also correct me if im mistaken since like i said im not exactly splendid at maths)

[Server]

To be honest i cant remember. I had examples on some page and it was proven to be working. No squads have 200 ave tho. Increasing your value is hard when you have high value.. decreasing your value is hard when you have low value.. those constants effect much on the formula so you cant count your ratings without those..

[Escalate]

the formula is fine. this isnt about increasing your own value, its about managing a team and predicting who is undervalued and who is overvalued, who will have a great game one week and who wont. if you are worth 600+ then you are valued such that you are one of the best players in the league, and +6 against newb squads isnt going to maintain that value...maybe a 10-2 would have done it for you. this is all irrelevant though, because noone serious about twlm buys ppl that cost more than 500 or so that i know of.

server: maybe you guys could get this mess cleaned up by playoffs, and have a playoff twl-m?

[Displaced]

i know what the game is about Escalate, thats not the point im trying to make.

the point im trying to make is that i do find that formulas are currently either flawed, or something is wrong. i dont think players should be "punished" if one of their picks plays "decently" in a game, hell they shouldnt get punished when someone plays well either. since in theory it is possible for someones value to decrease with a 3:1 rec game. (which to me does not make sence)

[HellzNo!]

of course people try and get their own value highest in twlm. It's almost like a belim ranking of sorts, you try and do as good as possible so you can be top ten etc... or maybe you're just doing good so you don't dissapoint people who bought you. Perhaps you should add into the formula

[Server]

i know what the game is about Escalate, thats not the point im trying to make.

the point im trying to make is that i do find that formulas are currently either flawed, or something is wrong. i dont think players should be "punished" if one of their picks plays "decently" in a game, hell they shouldnt get punished when someone plays well either. since in theory it is possible for someones value to decrease with a 3:1 rec game. (which to me does not make sence)

3:1 wont get your value down.. maybe if you have like 1000 and enemy lineup is 100 .. if your value is like 600.. you are expected to do better than 2:1 .. maybe 3:1 is enough.. maybe not.. sucks to be good but not good enough?

[Escalate]

i know what the game is about Escalate, thats not the point im trying to make.

the point im trying to make is that i do find that formulas are currently either flawed, or something is wrong. i dont think players should be "punished" if one of their picks plays "decently" in a game, hell they shouldnt get punished when someone plays well either. since in theory it is possible for someones value to decrease with a 3:1 rec game. (which to me does not make sence)

my point is that no one that plays twlm seriously picks players who are valued that high. the idea of the game is to pick people who are undervalued...anyone above 600 is already valued at the elite level and is not undervalued unless they are going to have a shockingly good game....like 15-3 or something...

so if you buy one of those players then yes, you should be punished if they have a "decent" game by going 12-6 vs a newbie squad. because they are valued way above "decent".

[exe]

IMO there should be no newbie squads in twl... So the +- score should be the one that matters.

[Escalate]

for that to happen we need to cut the leagues to maybe 10 teams