Recent talk about Inactivity

[Tyrome]

I been thinking about it, maybe it is that people just dont give the "new guys on the scene" a chance, at all. I mean either sum n00bs are gonna have to start a squad and see wear it goes or ppl are gonna have to take on the newer ppl to basing,javing, and dueling alike to teach them. That is the only way the game will start to thrive again.

[3Stripes]

uh no

[Project]

I don't really think the newer players can really tell the 'vets' that they're wrong about the talent declining in TW. After all, the 'vets' have seen both eras - the new kids on the block haven't. So unless you have an older brother or some other kind of evidence to support your argument that TW has maintained its skill level, don't berate another's opinions who are just as if not more valid as your own.

[PaulOakenfold]

Crap, you got me again Project... looks like we should all just give up now guys, the talent is making a decline because every single vet said so. It was a good run, oh nevermind... according to the vets it wasn't. Shit... just wasted 5 years of my life.

[Cig Smoke]

I been thinking about it, maybe it is that people just dont give the "new guys on the scene" a chance, at all. I mean either sum n00bs are gonna have to start a squad and see wear it goes or ppl are gonna have to take on the newer ppl to basing,javing, and dueling alike to teach them. That is the only way the game will start to thrive again.

I think that some of those squads are picking them up. Not top squads, but TWL caliber squads like sk8 in basing, BC in basing. Mostly basing squads, but there are a few wb/jav squads who give others a chance if they show the talent.

[HellzNo!]

the talent isn't declining, it's skyrocketing in any league if anything, the vets of old are just too stubborn to realize it. Don't get me wrong, the banzi's and bloodzombie's(lol) of old were really kick ass, but the only reason people don't notice the talent know is because almost all the washed up vets pretend like they still rock this game and that they just don't try, and so all these posers just wait for them to start trying and show all these "newbies" up. The truth is, you can't compare the skill level of today with the past, because of all the different changes to the game and the style of play. The res, the greens, all kinds of shit has affected the dueling leagues, the only way i can say you can compare the two generations is if you take todays tw vets, and the tw vets of old, and play them with both old and new settings in all the leagues, and see who wins. But that's nearly impossible, so everyone can stop with the argument. The skill level isn't declining, people just like to see players with numbers or exlamation marks in there names(booya) pass them in skill level, so they make all these excuses up. with tw population higher than ever, how can you say the skill level is declining. Last year saw some of the most varied competition ever in tw. There wasn't just two squad dominating everybody, all three leagues could have been a toss up between 4-5 teams. That's proof the skill level isn't declining.

[Project]

You're just showing your ignorance (again) Paul. At no point did I say the vet argument is more plausible than yours based on the # of people who support it.

[PaulOakenfold]

At no point did I say the vet argument is more plausible than yours based on the # of people who support it.

And that's not what I was trying to say either. If I had metioned that only some or one vet said so, it would make my argument even stronger. I know what you were trying to say, but then you have to look at how many people say it... and of course that doesn't really matter either. No matter how you look at it, people are saying shit comments about the decline of activity and talent for no reason. The only reason I can see (that any of the people that talk so pessimisticaly put forth) is to show how great things WERE.

I guess my point is, though I am (and some others are) arguing that there in fact ISN'T a decline in talent, that more importantly, there's no reason to be saying this even if there were... unless of course you're going somewhere else with it.

[Tyrome]

the talent isn't declining, it's skyrocketing in any league if anything, the vets of old are just too stubborn to realize it. Don't get me wrong, the banzi's and bloodzombie's(lol) of old were really kick ass, but the only reason people don't notice the talent know is because almost all the washed up vets pretend like they still rock this game and that they just don't try, and so all these posers just wait for them to start trying and show all these "newbies" up. The truth is, you can't compare the skill level of today with the past, because of all the different changes to the game and the style of play. The res, the greens, all kinds of shit has affected the dueling leagues, the only way i can say you can compare the two generations is if you take todays tw vets, and the tw vets of old, and play them with both old and new settings in all the leagues, and see who wins. But that's nearly impossible, so everyone can stop with the argument. The skill level isn't declining, people just like to see players with numbers or exlamation marks in there names(booya) pass them in skill level, so they make all these excuses up. with tw population higher than ever, how can you say the skill level is declining. Last year saw some of the most varied competition ever in tw. There wasn't just two squad dominating everybody, all three leagues could have been a toss up between 4-5 teams. That's proof the skill level isn't declining.

I wouldnt put it all on the vets I can think of a number of factors that could affect the game. (altho u had some good points) Like the amount of n00bs who just becus it is the "easiest" ship to play they get put in spid everytime. And so where do we get our new up and coming terriers or sharks, special ships etc. Well we just dont. From what I can tell, now adays terrs are just born. People can learn to shark but for awhile they will suck and no one wil play them/give them a chance to improve. Just a point I thought of.

[Jason]

hellz is one smart cookie

[Cops]

I'm left wondering who really gives a shit about who's inactive and who's active.

[Kim]

Actually cops, its more useful than what most people talk about nowadays. At least this way you can know where players can be stolen essentially

[Project]

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Last year saw some of the most varied competition ever in tw. There wasn't just two squad dominating everybody, all three leagues could have been a toss up between 4-5 teams. That's proof the skill level isn't declining.

That is NOT proof that skill level isn't declining. This is proof that the talent is either well-spread or the margin of talent is closer between squads than in the past. This does not however mean that the skill level itself is 'higher'.

[concealed]

jason, that avatar is not kosher.

[Tyrome]

jason, that avatar is not kosher.

WHO CARES ! :eek: :eek: :eek: thats an eye opener $$

lol joke :P is that legal on the forum