Idea for new TWL Qualification system.

[Sumpson]

I think it would be nice if all squads wich qualify this year for league, get auto-qualifications for next year.

If they are able to get in TWL this year, they are good enough for this TWL and can only get stronger for next TWL. This also helps keeping the squads alive because they are sure of their TWL position next year.

It always happens squads dissolve, it would be nice if each TWL 8 squad wich is still alive at that time would have their captain select the amount of squads wich are needed and suggest them to TWL staff.

cheers,

Sumpson

[JeBu]

hmm not maybe all. it would be good if they get 2 or 4 new squads

[Stabwound]

Nah, that is a very bad idea. Pretend Spastic totally changed rosters and recruited 30 newbies from pub. Should they still be in TWLB next year?

[Sumpson]

there's no need to expect something like that to happen.

Edit: well meybe if you think about Melee, you might say they dont belong in TWLB this year. but if they did auto qualify they probably wouldn't have dissolved and actually been able to get some talented players because there are always those who join a squad just to play with them in TWL.

[JeBu]

Nah, that is a very bad idea. Pretend Spastic totally changed rosters and recruited 30 newbies from pub. Should they still be in TWLB next year?

hmm maybe something that shoulds should play 1 twd/2 weeks and should be over some rank before end example rank 15

[Refer]

No

bad idea, the invites for squad making playoffs are enough, because it proves that if they made the playoff, they are real contenders for next years TWL. other than that forget the rest.

[Stabwound]

It was a made up example. How about a real one?

Melee autoqualified for all (I believe) 3 leagues last season. They had practically none of the players from their TWLD/TWLJ lineups from the season before. They ended up going 1-10 or so.

If your idea was going to be implemented at all, there would have to be some kind of rule like you have to keep at least 75% of your starting lineup from season to season to auto-qualify.

[Kolar]

Bad idea considering these newer squads nearly pushed out Inc and a few other competitive ones.

[DOTSY]

and what do you do with all the other squads that are new and good enough to play? like juice... just don't let them play?

[tahkis]

Bad idea considering these newer squads nearly pushed out Inc and a few other competitive ones.

Haha, that was because half of our squad thought we got auto-qualified. And that place was pretty secured until all those other squads found dudgeon, wima etc..

[Kolar]

We need to fix the system first Dotsy, so that BD, DD or JDing lower squads will not be a problem around the TWD lock down. Juice had enough good players to be in, they nearly were removed from being in LB by less competitive squads.


If these squads do not show stability and longevity within TWD, Why then should they be considered for an Auto invite? Having it would make any squad stronger but if it is a deciding factor in you and your players keeping the squad running then No. I know that at some point we need to consider adding some more but quilifying once for LB and having an inexperienced line up isn't something that makes your squad worthy of it. I'm not trying to start shit here but BC did what many others did yesterday, they abused the TWD system to enter TWL. We need to stop that before we can consider BC or any other squads for Auto entry.

[Suzie-Q.]

i was going to put forward a nice valid arguement but since my opinion doesnt matter im just going to say stupid idea.

hmm not maybe all. it would be good if they get 2 or 4 new squads

yes

every squad, NO!

[Sumpson]

pheww.. this is gonna take me allot of effort but It's worth it I believe.

bad idea, the invites for squad making playoffs are enough, because it proves that if they made the playoff, they are real contenders for next years TWL. other than that forget the rest.

The squads wich qualify for TWL would also qualify the next year if they are alive and if they really want in. Because they once were in TWL and I believe mainly get better after staying together one off season. the only reason why they would not be able to get in is for the rediculous TWD system.

It was a made up example. How about a real one?

Melee autoqualified for all (I believe) 3 leagues last season. They had practically none of the players from their TWLD/TWLJ lineups from the season before. They ended up going 1-10 or so.

If your idea was going to be implemented at all, there would have to be some kind of rule like you have to keep at least 75% of your starting lineup from season to season to auto-qualify.

I dont think that's a very good example eighter, they even did get auto-qualified by the current system. still I think it has been a good thing Melee entered league, it is a respected squad and has been alive for a long time, they desirve some credit for that and thus get auto qualified in league.
If an old squad like melee doesnt get in league or are not sure of a league position yet there is a bigger chance for them to die, wich is a bad thing to happen. TW could use some more loyal players, squads dieing all the time causes squad hoppers any little thing to prevent this should be implemented imo.

Bad idea considering these newer squads nearly pushed out Inc and a few other competitive ones.

Like ancients pushed out sk8 this season? thats only because of the rediculous TWD/TWL qualification we have at the moment and wich needs to be fixed.

and what do you do with all the other squads that are new and good enough to play? like juice... just don't let them play?

Like I said in my first post, there are always some squads who dissolve.
my solution to pick new teams was to ask each TWL7 squad (captain) for the squads who need to get in TWL 8. There are rumours about Dice and Disoblige feeding Juice this TWD wich I believe are true, and they did desirve to get feed because they belong in TWL. and those squads understand this and would have picked them above squads like ..to get in


EDIT: HI Suzie! Thats better!

[Kolar]

Sumpson with the number of questionable squads being let into TWLB and other divisions, does it really make sense to let them return next year? Now their competitiveness in LB aside, will this help their squad get better, bring more competition to TWD next year?

We need to work out two problems:

1: How do we judge new Auto-invite squads and assign Auto-invites.

2: How do we stop the rampant abuse of the TWD system, fast tracking the wrong kind of squads into TWL.


We can't kill two birds with one stone i'm afraid. If we fix the TWD system next year with the new rating system and enforce new TWL qulification rules (which would take into consideration many different things, which can not be boiled down into numbers). After all of that, then maybe we can consider some new Auto-Invite squads.


Fixing this with your idea is like rewarding a kid for getting an F on his report card. This goes beyond setting up a crappy system, its throwing competitiveness and stability within the TWL system.

[Suzie-Q.]

Win enough point, be allowed to play in TWL. alter it so u can only play squads within 5 places above or below your position, or whatever (not my place to come up with those ideas), but each season should be treated anew.

they are good enough for this TWL and can only get stronger for next TWL.

erm yeah ok sure.


basically your saying, lets just not let any new squads in to TWL.. so the only hope in hell a new squad has of getting in is if a sqaud that has "auto-qualificationed" dissolves and that 1 place would be fought over, alot. im sorry but i would get so bored playing the same squads over and over again. clearly that idea excites you.

and to stop fast tracking squads into TWl , why dont you just set up a date say 2,3,4,5,6 months in advance of the closing TWL selecting date where squads state they wanna be in TWL. and then those squads that didnt sign up cant play in TWl, again not my place. but the idea of letting all the squads back in with no effort on there behave, just makes no sense.