Three league squads / TWLB

[Ephemeral]

The only logic I can think of is that it could be considered easier to have a wall have against your back.
Warbirding and Javving don't really allow you to sit back against a wall and play, you have to be more '360 degree' aware?

[Jones]

Why isnt everyone good at basing then? Why wont Teks win TWLB?

No one from teks can wb.

[Kid Kaos]

I guess all of you saying that teaming doesent mean shit in TWLD havent seen Pirates in TWLD yet. We team beautifully. Teaming in TWLD is all about coordinating strikes at individual players on the team. Spread em out. And go 3 on 1.

[death row]

Why isnt everyone good at basing then? Why wont Teks win TWLB?

I dont know whats the point of this thread

I never said everyone in base is elite or can compete. I said that I agreed with Disq that more duelings squads can compete in this league with the other so-called base teams, whereas those base teams could not compete nor make the playoffs in dueling leagues. Just an observation, thats all.

[brookus]

...I agreed with Disq that more duelings squads can compete in this league with the other so-called base teams...

Perhaps your definition of "compete" differs from mine, but I see one dueling squad* going to the playoffs in twlb and no basing squads** going to twld playoffs.

That hardly sounds like great data from which to base your conclusion. Add the fact that the no basing squad has won twld and no dueling squad has won twlb. (Note: I don't count TWLB5, since there wasn't a true playoff.)

*If you classify -F- as dueling.
**If you exclude Diso.

llater,
Tony

[K2Grey]

IMHO, it's not that a bad team can win in TWLB, rather, its that TWLB squads are more likely to be underestimated.

There are alot of people who do well in go base and who join or make a squad together and no one really knows that they're good because they've never played before, but then they beat some squad and everyone is like "lololol they lost to these newbs" but then the said newbs beat a bunch of other people and people start to take it seriously.

In TWLD, if you're on a crappy team, even if you're good, its often not possible even for the player himself to figure out that hes good, and if he does it's still difficult to get onto one of the "good" squads. In TWLB, there's a bigger serious playerbase.

Also in TWLB rust matters more IMHO.

[Roggan]

I never said everyone in base is elite or can compete. I said that I agreed with Disq that more duelings squads can compete in this league with the other so-called base teams, whereas those base teams could not compete nor make the playoffs in dueling leagues. Just an observation, thats all.

Basing squads can't compete in dueling leagues because, well.... we dont duel, most of us spend barely any time in elim/baseelim/javs/other dueling arenas, we play in base or sometimes pub 0.


But, I find basing to be more exciting. Its all about personal taste, you dont like, dont play it. All 3 leagues seem to have equal competition right now. (Basing has more than ever, 16 teams this season and there are still quite a few active basing-only squads (thanks to TWIL))

[death row]

Perhaps your definition of "compete" differs from mine, but I see one dueling squad* going to the playoffs in twlb and no basing squads** going to twld playoffs.

That hardly sounds like great data from which to base your conclusion. Add the fact that the no basing squad has won twld and no dueling squad has won twlb. (Note: I don't count TWLB5, since there wasn't a true playoff.)

*If you classify -F- as dueling.
**If you exclude Diso.

llater,
Tony

Well you may not count it though, but Light did win that. And they were predominately a dueling team. So you have to give those guys credit, they beat some tough teams then.

At any rate, I'm not trying to offend anyone with my opinion. I was just trying to chime in with Disq that I agreed with him.

[Adman]

except at that time they had the best err in the league (arguable in Mitch) and from earlier in this thread NN said you could win with a super terrier and less awesome ships. But anyways who cares.

Play what you want or don't play at all.

[Nickname]

The simple fact for Light is that had one of the top 4 terrs of probably all time in Mitch, two extremly laggy sharks, 4 duelers in spiders and 2dragons playing with lag that would spec anybody else.

I could still throw that combo at you and you'd have no way to defend it.

[Miku19]

To make basing better, everybody always talks about limiting the spiders. Just to throw an idea out, what if we had the sharks limited to 1?

Pros:
-Requires more individual skill from the shark and the terr
-Cramming could become obsolete, or at least less broken compared to lining
-Lining would be an effective tactic
-Spids need more teamwork to avoid the total sudden collapse of the team in flagroom fights
-Gives place for a special ship, such as a jav, because javs are that much more effective when they don't have to count to 6

Cons:
-A lot of attachdeaths (depends largely on the terr)
-Flagroom fights might be short
-Warbirds and javs would be overpowered (necessarily not a con)
-Gives place for a 6th spider, spiders tend to overrun a lone shark pretty easily (could be countered with a 5 spid limit? too many limitations hurt though)

Adding more when I come up with them.

[PrOnEsSim]

To make basing better, everybody always talks about limiting the spiders. Just to throw an idea out, what if we had the sharks limited to 1?

Pros:
-Requires more individual skill from the shark and the terr
-Cramming could become obsolete, or at least less broken compared to lining
-Lining would be an effective tactic
-Spids need more teamwork to avoid the total sudden collapse of the team in flagroom fights
-Gives place for a special ship, such as a jav, because javs are that much more effective when they don't have to count to 6

Cons:
-A lot of attachdeaths (depends largely on the terr)
-Flagroom fights might be short
-Warbirds and javs would be overpowered (necessarily not a con)
-Gives place for a 6th spider, spiders tend to overrun a lone shark pretty easily (could be countered with a 5 spid limit? too many limitations hurt though)

Adding more when I come up with them.

IM a con then!

nicely said.

[Miku19]

Also in TWLB rust matters more IMHO.

Yeah, during TWLD and TWLJ matches you can shake the rust off in peace, since it's not that closely related to time as TWLB is. In TWLB matches while you're shaking the rust off the enemy team is getting important minutes.

[Jeansi]

Rather than limiting sharks to 1, make them less powerful so that some teams voluntarily play only one shark

IE taking one repel away from them, lowering their max energy, making them slower or something like that.

[Da1andonly]

There is more newbies and whiners in LD and LJ why we even need those leagues they can go to elim. whine and lag there and LD and LJ don't need teaming so it's not important if you don't have team around, and all LD and LJ players squadhop anyway so whats the point keep those leagues?

This was just plain stupid, I mean -- REALLY stupid.


Hey jebu! Why do we need TWLB when you have pub and ?go base!!!!!!1@~