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  • #61
    I wonder if the chemistry of the team rush stems from them all just being so angry they want to kill the other team as fast as possible?
    jee

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    • #62
      Oh you call that chemistry :P
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      • #63
        I find these assumptions a bit presumptuous.

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        • #64
          wait & see

          We dont have any internal conflicts... we all love eachother :P
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          • #65
            i hate barton too
            violence> dont talk 2 me until u got 900+fbook friends and can take 1 dribble from the 3 point line n dunk


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            • #66
              Originally posted by pascone View Post
              i think your credible source is racka. if thats the case, he isn't credible. how many people think we cheat? if not, it is important to note that your source was likely some of the same people that were booted off of sake and want us and our 'cheater reputation' to look even worse and thus make us look like cheaters still. trust me when i say i hate zazu more than anyone else. i'd be the first to not only kick him from sake but to get someone to ban him. the only credible sources that can exist are people physically sitting behind the so called cheaters on sake, which to my knowledge, don't exist. a squad wins a game and a couple more in preseason and we must cheat.

              the problem with this 'cheater past reputation' leads to people focusing only on sake 'cheating' and not any other squads, especially from 'respectable' squads. whats to say none of them are cheating? not naming any names, ill let my teammates name them since they do every time we play them
              I'm not sure if you're replying to what I wrote or if it was to what someone else wrote but I won't concern myself with whether someone on your squad is cheating or not at this point in time. That's irrelevant based on the situation (because of the nature of CE and it's ability to be detected) what's more important is that TWL maintains it's integrity. We keep it a level playing field (or as close as possible) so that people are given the same advantages (or same disadvantages) so that it's a proper representation of who's the best in their respective league and so that TWL can maintain a higher level of competition. All I'm really saying is if someone lags enough to tank many shots dead on, and in turn give them an advantage, they shouldn't really be playing TWL if their internet connection is that insufficient. This is subjective so maybe TWL ops should get together and discuss before we're deep into TWL what kind of lag is acceptable, if you haven't done so already. In TWD we have a set of numbers that represents the limit of the TWD lag limits, but we don't stop there, we also have guidelines for visual lag since sometimes visual lag and actual lag aren't one in the same.
              1:Best> lol why is everyone mad that roiwerk got a big dick stickin out his underwear, it's really attractive :P
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              • #67
                Originally posted by MetalHeadz View Post
                weren't qs those emos...yea - you sound like one.
                didn't i use to shark with you in base? relax man, and wait two seconds before you throw out the flame eh?
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                • #68
                  i agree with reav, there are laggots and i can accept that, but when the so called 'laggots' (possibly cheating) eat ridiculous amounts of head on shots and just tank their way through to mvp they really should not be allowed to play twl. seeing zazu...he does that alot.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Ricko View Post
                    i agree with reav, there are laggots and i can accept that, but when the so called 'laggots' (possibly cheating) eat ridiculous amounts of head on shots and just tank their way through to mvp they really should not be allowed to play twl. seeing zazu...he does that alot.
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                    • #70
                      lol people are still talking about me huh..

                      Well, here's my thing:
                      I have never been "reaaaaaally" laggy like the Finnish players or the Brazilian ones. I'm living in Belgium and I have a good connection (Allthough I must say my ISP has been acting weird a few times, but I guess that happens). My lag at this moment is: PING Current:100 ms Average:110 ms Low:90 ms High:490 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.0%
                      I don't call that laggy. And you guys talk about "head on eats"? Why is everybody focusing just on me? I doubt I really have had head on eats. But look at these other people who eat like 10 in a game. It makes me feel happy if I eat some, so that the others know how it feels like.
                      Lag will always be a part of the game, as this is an ONLINE game. You also have to keep in mind it's not only MY ping that confuses people, it's also your own lag. Your own lag affects the things you see aswell, so shots can miss on my screen but hit on yours. Could be YOUR lag and not mine. Or a combination of both.
                      And I'm sick of people reporting eachother for every single eat someone gets. Please realise it's a part of the game, and you're eating some shots yourself aswell.

                      But whatever, it's normal that when people lose they get frustrated and start making up excuses and start blaming others for their own loss. If someone loses, it's NEVER their own mistake, always someone elses.

                      (And btw, as Barton mentioned above, 100 people in the arena never really improves the lag of the people playing either.)
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Zazu View Post
                        lol people are still talking about me huh..

                        Well, here's my thing:
                        I have never been "reaaaaaally" laggy like the Finnish players or the Brazilian ones. I'm living in Belgium and I have a good connection (Allthough I must say my ISP has been acting weird a few times, but I guess that happens). My lag at this moment is: PING Current:100 ms Average:110 ms Low:90 ms High:490 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.0%
                        I don't call that laggy.
                        You are a bigger idiot than i thought if you think your belgium connection is somehow a lot better than what finnish players have.
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                        • #72
                          Maybe he's talking about those who live deep into the forrest like disp. I think he lives under a rock or something.

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                          • #73
                            Zazu, like I've explained before: YOU are made a such big deal because you lag in a different way than others, namely you appear to have a low ping but still you eat these head-on shots constantly, as if you had a packetloss of like 10%. I don't think you're cheating, you just have to realize what it looks like and how frustrating it is since there's no predicting it (unless by looking at if you're trying to dodge or not).
                            jee

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Zazu View Post
                              lol people are still talking about me huh..

                              Well, here's my thing:
                              I have never been "reaaaaaally" laggy like the Finnish players or the Brazilian ones. I'm living in Belgium and I have a good connection (Allthough I must say my ISP has been acting weird a few times, but I guess that happens). My lag at this moment is: PING Current:100 ms Average:110 ms Low:90 ms High:490 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.0%
                              I don't call that laggy. And you guys talk about "head on eats"? Why is everybody focusing just on me? I doubt I really have had head on eats. But look at these other people who eat like 10 in a game. It makes me feel happy if I eat some, so that the others know how it feels like.
                              Lag will always be a part of the game, as this is an ONLINE game. You also have to keep in mind it's not only MY ping that confuses people, it's also your own lag. Your own lag affects the things you see aswell, so shots can miss on my screen but hit on yours. Could be YOUR lag and not mine. Or a combination of both.
                              And I'm sick of people reporting eachother for every single eat someone gets. Please realise it's a part of the game, and you're eating some shots yourself aswell.

                              But whatever, it's normal that when people lose they get frustrated and start making up excuses and start blaming others for their own loss. If someone loses, it's NEVER their own mistake, always someone elses.

                              (And btw, as Barton mentioned above, 100 people in the arena never really improves the lag of the people playing either.)
                              What your ping and your visual lag are, aren't always one in the same. Some people might have 300ms but look less laggy than someone with 150ms...you might wonder how but if they have a solid 300ms that doesn't deviate much then it's stable, and results in less visual lag. Someone that has 150ms but constantly goes up and down by 40ms or whatever are going to be a little more jumpier. I don't know who you're talking about when you say look at these other Finnish/whatever people eating 10 in a game...I haven't encountered that in a long time and when I do it's usually someone on dialup and on top of that, they aren't shots that you hit them in the middle of the ship.

                              Of course lag will always be a part of the game, does that mean we need to have it to such severity in a competitive league? I've got 50ms usually and I'm sure I wasn't the only one that saw you tanking shots, In fact I asked around to verify before saying anything. I'm sure everyone has "eaten" shots in this game, even someone who can manage 10ms will eat a shot now and then. But these so called "eats" are edge of the ship eats.

                              I haven't played you once yet in TWL so no, I'm not frustrated with you, you haven't beaten me and I certainly was the one to bring this up. Just so we're clear, I'm not calling you a cheater, I'm saying your internet connection is insufficient to play competitively if it's going to be as laggy as you were before. That's my opinion and although I know many people agree with that, hopefully TWL ops will agree too, unless of course your internet connection becomes better.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Reaver View Post
                                What your ping and your visual lag are, aren't always one in the same. Some people might have 300ms but look less laggy than someone with 150ms...you might wonder how but if they have a solid 300ms that doesn't deviate much then it's stable, and results in less visual lag. Someone that has 150ms but constantly goes up and down by 40ms or whatever are going to be a little more jumpier. I don't know who you're talking about when you say look at these other Finnish/whatever people eating 10 in a game...I haven't encountered that in a long time and when I do it's usually someone on dialup and on top of that, they aren't shots that you hit them in the middle of the ship.

                                Of course lag will always be a part of the game, does that mean we need to have it to such severity in a competitive league? I've got 50ms usually and I'm sure I wasn't the only one that saw you tanking shots, In fact I asked around to verify before saying anything. I'm sure everyone has "eaten" shots in this game, even someone who can manage 10ms will eat a shot now and then. But these so called "eats" are edge of the ship eats.

                                I haven't played you once yet in TWL so no, I'm not frustrated with you, you haven't beaten me and I certainly was the one to bring this up. Just so we're clear, I'm not calling you a cheater, I'm saying your internet connection is insufficient to play competitively if it's going to be as laggy as you were before. That's my opinion and although I know many people agree with that, hopefully TWL ops will agree too, unless of course your internet connection becomes better.
                                WIll You shut the hell up you emo nerd. Also, you eat 3-4 shots a game that result in kills for you. Which is the difference between 7-10 and 11-10 so shut the hell up. Oh Ya i have 20 ms which is lower than what you have and people eat my shot constantly. I guess you are cheating reaver cause you eat shots in the middle of your ship too. So does demonfaze, baserman, and colonel. CE LINEUP????

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