Zazu

[kthx]

Actually Pascone I am going to disagree with most the people here, if you are so sure that your player doesn't cheat then play him. By all means, and then when he gets banned for cheating all of Sake's games that had Zazu in them are lost 0-50. Because you are so certain of your players innocence, because you asked him if he cheated. I mean it isn't hard to tell if someone is cheating, I am sure you mods checked his *tinfo and *lag readings, and if they weren't bad with negative S2Cweapons and +-10 tinfo spikes on every line, then obvious he is cheating, and you should ban him for it. I think Pascone knows what is going on but is just using his position to shield his squad from what is going on with Zazu right now, and I hardly see that as proper behavior from a staffer. Where is the anti-quicksand staff brigade now, saying that a captain should be responsible for who is on his squad no matter what. Well, make Pascone and therefore Sake responsible for Zazu, if he doesn't cheat Pascone, keep playing him. Either his lag will miraculously clear up now and he will go 5-10 like he used to before he lagged, or he will keep eating and get banned. Either way it will be fairly obvious, that is unless you keep him off the radar for the rest of TWL.

[genocidal]

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=23097

For once, and perhaps only once, I found myself in agreement with RATTY....

[Barton]

I agree that I haven’t seen anyone else lag like Zazu, but I don’t know anyone else who is located in Belgium with his connection either. However, I wouldn’t find it that annoying to play against him. At least, I can predict his shots and movements. Lomoro and his kind on the other hand are much worse to play against, because they are totally unpredictable and their shots can appear inches from their ships and reach incredible speeds. So, in my opinion, laggers like Lomoro have the bigger advantage.
If it’s decided that Zazu shouldn’t be allowed to play, why should Lomoro and his kind be allowed? From what I know it hasn’t been proven that Zazu cheats and Lomoro and his kind may just as well be cheating even though it might be more unlikely.

He got a point....

[Reaver]

He got a point....

Yep, till you read what I wrote in my last post.

[Scoop]

cover for him much? barton

[Nethila]

there is a difference between lag and eat and NO lag and eat

when a person lags, and eat a few. for the general public, there is a bit more lenient way to think. "oh, those eats are caused by his horrible lag"

but when a person has perfectly normal lag, and still eats like he has 300ms, the suspicion level will increase by folds. wat will the reason behind a guy with 100ms with 0 ploss eating like (or even more) than someone with a 300ms lag?

[Jeenyuss]

shut up barton

[pascone]

honestly, has anyone that has been on the quicksand squadron ever read the rules posted on the twl site?

just a yes or no is what i'm looking for.

[R1pp3r]

Whether he's cheating or not, we won't know and quite frankly we shouldn't just be looking at whether he's cheating or not, but whether he's gaining some outrageous advantage by being able to tank dead on shots or not. What do you think?

Yeah, the point I was trying to make is that many players other than Zazu are gaining outrageous advantages with their lag. However, somehow it's seen as acceptable because their lag is more common.

[Barton]

Reaver: I read it but u cant disargee that ripper got a point. zazu's lag was badass i know that but when u look at lom's bullet then u know what a disadvantage you got when u playing him.

Scoop: I did not cover him in any way, if u got proof of his "cheating" then kim/pred/pl can axe me from staff.

Jeenyuss: Wanna be a badass again? Dont start a war that u cant win bro

[Jeenyuss]

lol, shut the fuck up barton.

[paska]

the server is bad, eats happen and if you play with shitty computer like me you get called a cheater........ but always remember, everyone doesnt die from a hit on the "cheaters" screen either

[Nethila]

Reaver: I read it but u cant disargee that ripper got a point. zazu's lag was badass i know that but when u look at lom's bullet then u know what a disadvantage you got when u playing him.

quite frankly, i'd rather play against a player like lomoro than a player like zazu.

cause for lomoro, at least i dont have to guess "is his shot goin to come out 1 inch from him or not?" cause i know it will, so i stay away from him

but for zazu, i'd have to constantly guess "is he goin to die this time? or is he goin to tank and kill me"

[R1pp3r]

quite frankly, i'd rather play against a player like lomoro than a player like zazu.

cause for lomoro, at least i dont have to guess "is his shot goin to come out 1 inch from him or not?" cause i know it will, so i stay away from him

but for zazu, i'd have to constantly guess "is he goin to die this time? or is he goin to tank and kill me"

So, why don't you just stay away from Zazu as well? The way you describe it Lomoro's lag seems worse. With Zazu there is a chance that he won't tank, but with Lomoro it's certain that he will constantly have an unfair advantage.

[Ward]

So, why don't you just stay away from Zazu as well? The way you describe it Lomoro's lag seems worse. With Zazu there is a chance that he won't tank, but with Lomoro it's certain that he will constantly have an unfair advantage.

You aren't making any sense, neth laid it down for you nice and clear.