TWLB spider limit?

[Miku19]

Thats a horrible idea

here is how that will work out: start off with normal line our side gets tek and clears fr.

then everyone except terr is changed to shark and sets up cram
rofl try breaking that cram. Necro

How about they give us a chance to try breaking it? I bet it's easier than you think!

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IMHO we should first get rid of all the limits, then see if something is way overpowered or underpowered (like for instance the 20 bounty limit for a lev to attach might be a bit too steep for league play, on the other hand it might even be too low (which I doubt)), instead of changing ships to be "more viable" like the new lancaster that didn't really make an impact on basing at all except for the broken MVP formula.

[Spikester]

I think the spider limit shouldn't be used this league. Perhaps you could do so in the league after this one and get people used to 4 spiders in TWBD during offseason. Forcing the spiderlimit this season would be too soon, people haven't really tried playing with specials with the exception of disoblige.

but my opinions don't matter

[Miku19]

If you want to win you pretty much don't have a choice but to "play like everyone else, only better." The only ways we could make people try these lineups for real is 1) force limits on spiders or 2) give us more options to work with.

Choice 1 is very short-sighted and will probably only give a temporary boost to interest levels (until people notice it's really not that different after all) and seriously nerf the squads that have been relying on their shark teamwork and spid power. Choice 2 gives us the possibility of coming up with totally wack lineups that actually might work given time to practice, in addition to giving 5-spid teams what they want (they might have to change away from spider lineups in order to win though!).

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I know this is mostly coming from nonbasers but seriously no-limit? WTF is wrong with you peeople. Levis and weasels were removed cause they ruin basing with cheap tactics. Jav and wbt accept but not 3 or more. All that will happen is a team loses FR and 7 people do esc 2, f3 tab. f7 f3 tab... not playing with that

[Dabram]

I agree with Eph and Phren, everyone claims that the 5 spider line is the superior line, so you shouldn't have any problems going up against a line with 4 levs, 3 sharks and 1 terr right? No, you shouldn't. So I don't see why the ships should be restricted the way they are. Our zone was made originally to base, all the ships created by the original makers of the zone had this intention in mind when they made all 8 of them, so why not at least make it an option instead of barring it out completely?

true imo it should be 8 ships to choice of the team with a handful of shipchanges allowed (of course still controled by the captains)

i don't think 5 spiders is the best strategy. it surely is the easiest line to learn to play with, and with the total lack of creativity and skill in the last seasons (pretty much since pallies died) every squad has been playing 5 spids.
however using specials brings in much more diversity and when you, as a squad, learn how to play with specials as an addition to your line, i'm convinced you'll beat this simplistic 5-spiders-pure-cram-strategy 8 out of 10 times. however as a team you'll have to figure out how to play specials.. which is something i'm not going into details about because i don't want other teams to become as good as my own squad.

i find it especially stupid that in the last seasons squads played 5 spids vs squads like dice who clearly had a superior sharking pair and an equally or better spiderline.. if they are stronger in the same strategy, how do you expect to win? you won't unless they don't try as hard or w/e. so you better try to develop a different strategy that at least gives you a chance to win. imo there's still a lot of room for improvement in basing, but most ppl/squads just seem to lack the creativity to think of an own way of playing...

[megaman89]

I agree with Eph and Phren, everyone claims that the 5 spider line is the superior line, so you shouldn't have any problems going up against a line with 4 levs, 3 sharks and 1 terr right? No, you shouldn't. So I don't see why the ships should be restricted the way they are. Our zone was made originally to base, all the ships created by the original makers of the zone had this intention in mind when they made all 8 of them, so why not at least make it an option instead of barring it out completely?

thank you.

[PaulOakenfold]

What about 9 on 9 with the ninth being a mandatory jav or wb? I know it's somewhat similar to a simple 8v8 5 spider game, but with an extra body in there, it's going to make a shark's task impossible to constantly keep vigil over the auxiliary ship, which would make it a lot more feasible for teams to even do dual javs or dual wbs etc.

I know there's a tradition to having 8 on 8, and teams have trouble fielding 8 as it is, but it sure as hell would throw a wrench in the barrel, especially if it's a TWL specific addition.

[Ivan]

jesus christ, just make this basing league like pub already

15v15
thx

[Displaced]

completely agreed with Phren and Eph, don't restrict twlb, open it up, let us choose and field what we want..

id love to see some completely chaotic twlb games, cause ppl arent used to playing vs 5 lancs or whatever.

would be a lot more interesting.

[Dant-Zu]

Make if 5v5 and all javs?

[PaulOakenfold]

15v15
thx

This would actually be a lot of fun.

[Da1andonly]

and even more laggy :-(

[Soilderz]

and even more laggy :-(

pft..its because you're from finland

[Sufficient]

and even more laggy :-(

Not if there were multiple flags and/or multiple entrances.

[Dabram]

it's hard enough for me to carry 7 people, no bigger teams plz.