TWL Season 11 Invitations

[SLaQ n Sauce]

With our full jav line playing we would be competative vs ANY of those twlj squads, even pandora, despite what eelam's inflated ego might want to think.

[Mela]

20 wasn't good enough for build

sigh.. do you even know why build didnt get in twlb? BECAUSE YOU ONLY BD'D NEWB SQUADS!!11 ffs

[Fork]

Why set the minimum games at 15 if it's not good enough? 20 wasn't good enough for build, 17 not good enough for Fistula?

If you're going to have such unclear rules and bend them to get who you want into TWL, it's a good idea to edit them to tell the truth. "Pascone chooses who gets in twl regardless of ranking, and no one else (but the bandwagon pascone chooses to hop on) gets a say in it."

I agree with this =). All i can think of is that they might have looked at roster, saw theres not many people on roster compared to other squads, and assumed theres a v.good chance 5 people wont turn up to play each sunday and make the competition boring. I know fistula had 18/19 people on roster, but idk about the amount of people that was in build. Having said that about fistula, someone said previously that 5 people would have turned up each sunday if they got through in twl-j.

Perhaps on the rules, they should mention that even if u have a qualifying rank u MAY NOT get through to twl, as the qualifying ranks (1-12) is just a guidance (to the mods) to suggest the squad should be in the competetion.

[Cops]

juice is on the loose
juice is on the loose
juice is on the loose

[bicycle]

LOL is this some kind of joke? Why are there rules for qualifying for TWL if they aren't followed?

How could pascone say "Also, the amount of games played were definately considered as well." when that is clearly no where in the rules. The only mention of amount of games played specifies that it must be over 15. We were denied TWLJ for the same reason qs was as I understand it.

[Cops]

Alright lets start out with the statement: this is utter bullshit. Even though, having a competitive season is in the interest of all squads, it is not however, the duty for staff to pick and choose who would be be suited to make a good show for twl. Of course I'm talking about build being in lb instead of Juice. Build is a warbird squad, no question about that. We bded a few times grew to like it and decided what the hell why not go for lb. Unfortunately for us, it was a tad late in the season to go about this the way basing squads should.Where we would play good squads, practice more and what not. Like any squad though who is struggling just to make it, they will play squads they can manage just so they can enter the league. We did just that. This isn't just an issue with basing, but warbird and javs as well.
We did play teks and penetrate, although we only won versus teks, they are a twlb squad now. What pascone said related to what happened last league(or every league i guess for that matter) where lower tier squads played newbies that were not even considering doing lb to get the points. We played teks and penetrate, we played smart enough not to challenge upper tier to hold onto points because we were so low on the ladder. This is the same case in every single league with every squad not wanting to lose places on the ladder before a league registration lock. Juice had the exact same opportunity as us, well knowing they were lower than us,and could have bded and gained those points to pass us, but did not. I don't see why the rules are being bent here just because, yes they are most likely the better basing squad, but that shouldn't allow them to be exempt from the rules.
Bottom line is, we followed the rules and we met the requirements. Teks had the same or at least similar ave r. Juice had the chance to fix their rating but did nothing. They sat there and were so sure they would be let in because they are the better squad. This is just a biased decision to make the league more interesting, stepping a bit over the boundaries of power I'd say just to appease the basing community. Yes if you had asked me before, I'd be right along with you on the decision and this opinion, but now that I'm actually on the other side of things, we have a damn good reason to be allowed in over Juice.
I'm sure I had plenty more to say about this matter, but I just forgot. If anything I'll come back and light the forums up again.

p.s.- sup assholes

Let's see, you guys didn't win any games from a squad that was accepted into TWLB other than Teks, but you deserve to play TWLB?

Juice lost two games the day before the cut off because Godspeed (the unspeakable worst (A) to ever grace this game) accepted two games, one of which no one said they'd play. We lost two games and our average shot down, we also lost fiftyseven who was a key player so it's been a hectic week to keep shit going. Juice has proven it self to beat all top tier squads where as Teks, Plade and even Build havn't even come close to doing.

Moral of the Story: Don't act like you deserve a spot when you clearly don't.


Oct 03 10pm win Lethal Dose 15 - 3 21
Oct 03 10pm loss TeKs 8 - 15 -29
Oct 03 5pm win Warpath 15 - 1 21
Oct 03 4pm win Warpath 15 - 3 25
Oct 02 8pm win Lethal Dose 15 - 14 26
Oct 02 8pm win Lethal Dose 15 - 3 31
Oct 02 6pm loss Penetrate 5 - 15 -11
Oct 02 5pm win Paladen 15 - 11 23
Oct 01 8pm loss TeKs 9 - 15 -21
Oct 01 8pm win TeKs 15 - 3 34
Oct 01 8pm loss Hydra 2 - 15 -19
Oct 01 6pm loss TeKs 6 - 15 -20
Oct 01 5pm win lifeban 15 - 0 26
Sep 30 3pm win TeKs 15 - 10 31
Sep 30 2pm loss Disoblige 2 - 15 -14
Sep 29 5pm loss lifeban 3 - 15 -24
Sep 29 12am loss TeKs 2 - 15 -21
Sep 26 10pm loss Penetrate 3 - 15 -15
Aug 25 8pm loss Penetrate 8 - 15 -24
Aug 24 9pm loss Penetrate 7 - 15 -23

^ That's unimpressive to say the least

[Cops]

LOL is this some kind of joke? Why are there rules for qualifying for TWL if they aren't followed?

If you read the rules you'd know that it's within the TWL ops jurisdiction to make a call such as the one they made putting Juice in over Build, Build had a better record at the time but they got it by playing easy squads. They didn't sneak their way into TWLB and I'm quite proud of the TWL ops right now.

The hardest part about the past two days was getting squads like Build, Plade or even Teks to play us at certain time because they knew we had a far more competent line, it would have been risky to play us, Juice was left with far less options so we did the only thing we could do, which was base better squads like Spastic and we lost by 9 seconds but we also tried to get into TWLB by playing the best, not the worst.

Juice didn't even get handed this spot, we earned it. We played the best, showed the ability to compete and above all else showed potential.

[Spikester]

Staff's decision was completely rational and right and all of you whiners know it. TWL is supposed to be for the best and build sure as hell ain't better than juice. Also i doubt Fistula would've got enough of "your javs" to show in each game, which plade will probably manage.

[Cops]

Staff's decision was completely rational and right and all of you whiners know it. TWL is supposed to be for the best and build sure as hell ain't better than juice. Also i doubt Fistula would've got enough of "your javs" to show in each game, which plade will probably manage.

Did Build even play Sage? Like EVER?

[pascone]

Fine, disregard the games played. It just goes with the fact that if you played more games, you would have had played better squads (hopefully) and it would have resulted in a higher opponent average. It's clearly in the rules that the decision isn't strictly based on who has a higher average.

If you only have 5 javs, perhaps you should have recruited more to play more games? Also, why would we want a squad with 5 javs in TWLJ? Look at it from an unbiased perspective, which is unlikely to happen, and you'll understand the decision.

[PaulOakenfold]

Build, you just weren't cut out for TWLB this season. The rules of accepting are outlined to allow those that have proved themselves capable of competition, not so that the ops can pick and chose who they like. The decision was based on a number, not an assumption.

edit: And yes, if there is selection for a league it is about competition (for those that are willing to put forth effort to get in as well).

[Pressure]

juice is on the loose
juice is on the loose
juice is on the loose

[HateTheFake]

Mela your clearly retarded, its great how staff gets to break rules.

So why not make it fairer and have them do a tie breaker, at least then they can clearly not get fucked by staffs decision to fuck them.

[Cops]

A few words from my main man, Mike Wallace.



'Good to have here Mr. Wallace, would you like to say a few words about Build's TWBD performance?"

'lacking, tardy, unimpressive, lousy, skillfully inept, belated, sluggish, slow, afraid, hesitant, overdue'

You heard it here first, even Mike Wallace thinks you fucking sucked.

[Tha -X- killah]

Let's see, you guys didn't win any games from a squad that was accepted into TWLB other than Teks, but you deserve to play TWLB?

Juice lost two games the day before the cut off because Godspeed (the unspeakable worst (A) to ever grace this game) accepted two games, one of which no one said they'd play. We lost two games and our average shot down, we also lost fiftyseven who was a key player so it's been a hectic week to keep shit going. Juice has proven it self to beat all top tier squads where as Teks, Plade and even Build havn't even come close to doing.

Moral of the Story: Don't act like you deserve a spot when you clearly don't.


Oct 03 10pm win Lethal Dose 15 - 3 21
Oct 03 10pm loss TeKs 8 - 15 -29
Oct 03 5pm win Warpath 15 - 1 21
Oct 03 4pm win Warpath 15 - 3 25
Oct 02 8pm win Lethal Dose 15 - 14 26
Oct 02 8pm win Lethal Dose 15 - 3 31
Oct 02 6pm loss Penetrate 5 - 15 -11
Oct 02 5pm win Paladen 15 - 11 23
Oct 01 8pm loss TeKs 9 - 15 -21
Oct 01 8pm win TeKs 15 - 3 34
Oct 01 8pm loss Hydra 2 - 15 -19
Oct 01 6pm loss TeKs 6 - 15 -20
Oct 01 5pm win lifeban 15 - 0 26
Sep 30 3pm win TeKs 15 - 10 31
Sep 30 2pm loss Disoblige 2 - 15 -14
Sep 29 5pm loss lifeban 3 - 15 -24
Sep 29 12am loss TeKs 2 - 15 -21
Sep 26 10pm loss Penetrate 3 - 15 -15
Aug 25 8pm loss Penetrate 8 - 15 -24
Aug 24 9pm loss Penetrate 7 - 15 -23

^ That's unimpressive to say the least

In other words, what you're saying is, is that your assistant fucked up and that you should not face the consequences?