Pandora's Replays

[timQ]

Then on you being spammed in your lb game... you want a replay for that? seriously? Do you really not see the difference between you being spammed and these other 2 situations? are you that much of a fucktard?

no none of the pandora members has ever asked for a replay cause of the spam in lb, it wouldn't be fair. eelam's point was that we need to replay 2 lj's even tho neither one of them was our fault, just like the lb wasn't diso's fault. some fairness here PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[sarger]

maybe the host/staff didn't know that that was the case? maybe hydra doesn't have a squad chat? does it matter either way? if your squad is good, youll win.

Just wondering, do you see nothing wrong with that last sentence of yours? It just seems like this sort of questionable "logic" seems to play as a factor when it comes to staff decision making, but before I get all Captain Obvious on you I just wanted to see if you saw it yourself.

[PjOtTeR]

afk host did solve ex problem? or didnt he? oh wait it wasnt staff fault...

Host didn't solve exq's problem... so it was host/staff's fault... Which in now way is applicable to eelams case in the lb game.

[Evul Fly]

afk host did solve ex problem? or didnt he? oh wait it wasnt staff fault...

[PjOtTeR]

too be honest, if staff didn't give us that bullshit reason for why Sage gets a replay because "our game wasn't affected by lag" Eelam - "Damnifier lagged first game" Staff- "One person doesnt mean team" and also "disoblige weren't the one spamming you so they shoudlnt be penalized so no replay" Now lets foward onto Hydra Pandora situation: "Exquisite coudlnt get back in cause of incompetent staff and Kim being azn and cant read therefore there is rematch" ( doesn't this go against staff's idea of one person doesn't matter?) Also, KIM SUB'D riske instead of putting Exquisite back in? Why would he do that unless Quiz was lagging? hmmmmmmmmmmm? interesting.... next point, Pandora didnt do anything wrong therefore shouldnt be penalized ( same situation as Diso ) but still a replay. Staff put all our heads together and have some objectivity will ya? Stop being morons and changing your stance every fucking week.

You saying damnifier lagged first game doesn't mean that really happened... Get that...

On your game vs Sage staff said they shouldn't have let replays happen for all games, since by the hosts point of view there was no more lag then normall... they never said: "that was only 1 player"... you understand that?

Then on you being spammed in your lb game... you want a replay for that? seriously? Do you really not see the difference between you being spammed and these other 2 situations? are you that much of a fucktard?

And lastly we have this game you had vs Hydra... At the moment of exquisite lagging out and not being able to get back in, Hydra was winning... he couldn't get back in and then Hydra slowly started losing... this all due to a PM lock none of Hydra could do anything about.
Ofcourse you didn't do anything wrong in your game vs Hydra, but does that mean your game vs Hydra was fair? no ofcourse not, and if you cannot see that you're just ignorant.

You being spammed is entirely different from the other situations and cannot be compared. I've been spammed in twl games, you just cope with it type ?lines=0 or something, or just read your freqchat between the spammage, it isn't hard to do and it doesn't have to affect you at all. This was also done by people that didn't have anything to do with the match... I guess that is something you brought upon yourself, cause you are being you and others dont like you. Must suck to be you when you get spammed becus of the hatred on your lil person.

Also stop complaing about how staff is after you... I've seen other squads/people get screwed over way harder from multiple directions then you're currently being...
Sage game I see your point, yet Sage got a point aswell... This Hydra game I dont even see how you dare to argue that decision, with this screw up from host/staff that influenced the match greatly...

[Noah]

I want some attention!

How about a certain foreign object inserted into a certain place by a certain someone?

[eelam <tw>]

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too be honest, if staff didn't give us that bullshit reason for why Sage gets a replay because "our game wasn't affected by lag" Eelam - "Damnifier lagged first game" Staff- "One person doesnt mean team" and also "disoblige weren't the one spamming you so they shoudlnt be penalized so no replay" Now lets foward onto Hydra Pandora situation: "Exquisite coudlnt get back in cause of incompetent staff and Kim being azn and cant read therefore there is rematch" ( doesn't this go against staff's idea of one person doesn't matter?) Also, KIM SUB'D riske instead of putting Exquisite back in? Why would he do that unless Quiz was lagging? hmmmmmmmmmmm? interesting.... next point, Pandora didnt do anything wrong therefore shouldnt be penalized ( same situation as Diso ) but still a replay. Staff put all our heads together and have some objectivity will ya? Stop being morons and changing your stance every fucking week.

[Emaho]

I want some attention!

[midoent]

What I dont like in this whole thing, is that staff appears to be arrogant and standoffish in this whole debate. Neither sage, nor hydra, nor pandora did anything wrong. Staff is clearly at fault. Replays seem reasonable enough, even though both are really unfair to Pandora. And while I do understand, that staff is just a group of volunteers trying to make the game more enjoyable for all of us (I really appreciate that by the way), I think the staff team should at least publicly apologise to pandora (not just chao)

[Vatican Assassin]

Always doing my part.

So hard to please you Pandorians both in game and out of game :<<

mother fuckers steal our wins and then whine that its hard to please us oh the humanity

[Singer]

give pandora the win, we should have won 4vs5, this is shameful

[MirrorriM]

which brings us to the question: are there gonna be breaks on twl during holidays? I know I myself am gonna be away pretty much during christmas and new year and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. december 23rd and dec 30th happen to be sunday and I bet there will be alot ppl busy at the time. would be cool if twl was on a break for these 2 weekends.

Brought this up with the rest of TWL Staff, I dont think it will be too big of a problem. Look for an official announcement sometime in the next few days.

[xquisite]

actually i did talk in spec chat trying to wonder why i couldnt get back in... when i did lagout we were still winning even though it was 5v4 so why would i want to sit there for 5 mins to watch us lose? Makes so much sense.

[Nimrook]

just to point out when exq lagged out.. he DID talk in yellow spec chat.. the log was something like this

Nimrook> wtf exq get in
exquisite> I can't
Nimrook> why?
exquisite> i don't know, tried pmming Chaos and he didn't reply
Nimrook> well if he is here now he should be seeing this

and CHAOS was in spec chat but he did not reply to our yellow chat.. so indeed i think the host was afk or something, thus, it wasn't hydra fault..

plus.. i dont think kim actually notice he override the lock until it was done since he was just doing a regular sub command.. and I'm pretty sure exq didnt know what happened until he found out later locking pms means locking pms to bot aswell

[Vatican Assassin]

thanks for the input wax, keep up the good work