Great Idea about League Structure

[Exalt]

Everyone talks about lack of activity during off-season, but that's a quite normal thing. It happens everywhere, take football as an example, players have their break when season ends. Why make such a big drama about it?
However, if you really want people to show in that period, do a more competitive TWEL during off-season and allow not only 1 on 1 duels, but also 2 on 2.

^^^^^^^^^^^ agreed

twel has been a joke since maybe a month into season 1.... make it a real league and put ACTIVE players as head of this thing... and the 2v2 is a good idea

[Jones]

Next season

There are like 3 threads concerning basically the same issues, I have chosen this one because it popped up first.

Normally I would not do this, simply because nothing will change anyway but since I am able to I will do it.

thats the only way to get any of this crap to work. stop rewarding longevity and start rewarding activity. dont let an excuse about 'been playing for years' or 'too boring to play easy people' and junk like that. stop listening to all the other vets who only log on once a week for their match and no other times. if we want to grow at all, we have to stop listening to the people that barely play. thats the bottom line of it. otherwise, we'll just continue down the same path.

This is in my opinion is a 2 sided matter, if we take -FINAL- and lifeban as examples, we would obviously have -F- as the vets and lifeban as the activity. Now since this TWL obviously proved that TWL-Staff pick squads for "competition" rather than something else, I would say this idea is flawed. But he still has a point concerning activity over "dead squads".

Simply put; lifeban played a lot of games in a few weeks before TWL started, which is called activity, the result of this activity was what? 1-6 in TWLD, whilst -F- could obviously have been 6-1. This of course is debatable but had -F- been playing this season Style's warbirds would most likely have been split in two.

Note, I am not here to bash anyone while it may seem so at times.

Next:

why not make a system like premier league has?

make an amateur league, an intermediate, and pro league???

twdd isnt really a league cuz theres no winner, no point in even ranking high xcept to get into twl on like...the 50th reset, so the other 49 resets who cares about winning basically... thats a retarded way of doing it if u you ask me

I would like to change this to a bit more simple. Choose the top 16 squads from each division and split them into two groups; Higher Tier and Lower Tier. Since most 'vet's' seem so displeased with the whole "have to re-qualify" I believe the two best squads from past seasons should get an auto-invite.

Someone mentioned TWIB but that's not the same as I'm thinking.

Next: Roster capping

If a squad has been around for 8 months or more, their roster limit for TWD is 40
If a squad has been around for 5 months, their roster limit is 35
If a squad has been around for 3 months, their roster limit is 30
If a squad has been around for less than 3 months, their roster limit is 25

It promotes squad longevity by benefiting squads that have stuck it out longer instead of taking the easy route and just dissolving. Additionally, it doesn't harm squads that have been around for awhile and have many people on the roster that are there as friends.

I thought this was a good idea, however, my personal opinion would be no roster cap at all. Why? The last time this came to light Sk8 was being attacked for having 40+ people on the roster, but for every league game there was this same amount of people who always showed up, and the number of these people were lesser than 40, think 20 and you're closer to the fact. Same goes probably for Disoblige etc, anyway, of course this number could be going down the more multi-league players we have, but everyone is just not as good as Sika, or there isn't any interest.
Well so there are 20 people sitting in the same squad every sunday, why do they need the extra 20 on the roster who could start on another squad you ask. The answer, they won't show.

I believe the best way to add more competition to league, is by seperating the leagues.

January - June : Dueling league, TWLJ and TWLD

September - January: Basing league and Spider league ( Twsdx )

This will add alot more squads into twl, make people able to recruit more people. People are allowed to bring different rosters to different league.

I.E. for dueling can Have squad like Style as it is, but than when they recruit for basing they can just recruti pure basers, and such so rosters aren't finite.

My opinion on this matter back then in Kim's thread was to go for it. Now however after I read mostly Epi's replies about something along the lines of "staying active for a whole year..." I started thinking otherwise. Not everyone has enough free-time to continually try and get better for a whole year without much break.

Things that I think we should look into:

-New TWL website
-TWLJ and TWJD map, should they be the same?
-Destroying the cram by altering the map like people have proposed and/or allowing unlimited ship changes with no lev and cloaker restriction

Flame away.

[Lame]

Jones' post - too long to quote

Good post Jones.

[Exalt]

Good post Jones.

agreed, good post jones

[Chuckle]

no lev and cloaker restriction

hell yeah my skill will finally be seen

[Fit of Rage]

Cutting roster size won't do much. There are already squads that can't show 5 on a given week and drop out of TWL (numerous this season already).

[Kings]

I put it in the wrong thread, sry.
Great idea eelam.

[Cig Smoke]

I dont really think it'd make m uch a differnce tbh. All you would do is make the single league players go inactive at different times. Like pascone said. The duelers/javers most of them dont base, and if they do base they dont do it or care about it enough to actualy make a squad. Same as the basers. So when TWLB would be going on, then .?go javduel .?go baseelim .?go elim, all dueling/javing events/arenas would basicaly be dead. Then when TWLJ/TWLD was going on .?go base would be completely dead. I dont realy think it'd make a differnce. Your gonna hae a period of inactiveness and an offseason type period either way.

Besides, it sort of takes away from what a squad really is. Most squads out there werent made just to win leagues, counting urs eelam. Squads are like a "family" ina sence. You enjoy playing the game with that group of people. Splittin the league and having 2 seperate rosters would take away from that part of the game. I seen it in EG and i didnt like it personaly.

I think there are other things you could do in the offseason, mayb try to do the draft league again with more dedicated hosts/captains. the Basing world cup thingy again, mayb expand it to more countries or split it up so there is more teams so it last longer and so that so many ppl dont have to bench. I think there is more ways of keeping the zone alive in the offseason instead of splitting the leagues and squads apart.

[Scoop]

still waiting eelam

[Daldur]

Yeah . a Basing World Cup Team that Australians can join would be nice

[Ricko]

Splitting up the leagues over the year really isnt going to help tw AT ALL. Please noone even consider this. The way to sort twl out is to sort out roster sizes, the soft/hard locks, amount of squads in the league and whether there should be an amateur league and pro league.

[Lag.Com]

I'm not sure about a league split; I don't know how to predict how that would go. I think a Pro and Amateur league is good, though I think 'pro' is the wrong word - that implies the players do it for money...

Hell, that would provide some TWL winning incentive, wouldn't it. Fat chance of someone offering it though.

[Cig Smoke]

I agree ricko. I think lowering the roster limits alone would make a few more competative squads out there.


Daldur: I was thinking more along the lines of having like a Northeast american, southeast american, northwest, southwest blah blah. I know last time i played it on east usa we had so many ppl and alot just benchd every game. This way u could split it into more teams making it longer.

[Zeebu]

I agree ricko. I think lowering the roster limits alone would make a few more competative squads out there.


Daldur: I was thinking more along the lines of having like a Northeast american, southeast american, northwest, southwest blah blah. I know last time i played it on east usa we had so many ppl and alot just benchd every game. This way u could split it into more teams making it longer.

the way to do this would jsut to have a list of players and have them list their country/region beside the name. then let teh ppl who run the league decide from there.

a well run draft league would be awesome

[Exalt]

the way to do this would jsut to have a list of players and have them list their country/region beside the name. then let teh ppl who run the league decide from there.

a well run draft league would be awesome

as long as its run RIGHT then yes a TWDT league would be awesome... but you gotta keep it smart cuz the way it worked before SO many people benched, and also the signup times werent clear lots of people didnt sign up lots of people didnt show up, etc...

but it would be a fun league, same as TWEL... but the problem is having someone run it consistantly, an active staffer/player... not someone like 2dragons who hasnt logged on in years