TWL Banned List

[MirrorriM]

Rule 2.03 C.:

If a squad is unable to provide enough players for two games in the same league, the squad will be terminated from the league. Also, the captain(s) will be unable to enter another squad as the captain into any TWL after that.

In accordance with this rule-that every captain agreed to upon accepting the invitation to TWL last season-, these players can not cap another TWL squad. (They can be a player or assistant). This rule will take effect when the TWL squads are chosen. Here is the list of banned captains and the squad's they capped at the time:

Captains

Lifeban's caps:
vys
slaughter
epoch

Puma's caps:
ignite
shadowmere

Hydra's caps:
kim
exquisite
K O

Juice's caps:
apt
cops
Deverse

Heracy's caps:
kira_yamato~
zazerick
sawajiri

mym's caps:
oranje/1000

The next section is for all players who are banned completely from playing in TWL:

Players:

On Parole:

vys -First offense (under the new rules, he has already served a first offense TWL ban by not playing last season. If he is caught cheating again during this season, he is indefinitely banned from TWL participation).

[Money]

hahaha ignite cant cap, hope someone axes him and dissolves his shit when he/they demote him to asst

[PaulOakenfold]

I wasn't aware that this was put into place, but I think it's a good idea. Is this forever, or just one season?

[Jedi DC]

ban!!!

[MirrorriM]

The rule states that the player can never captain a TWL squad again, but in the new rules I'm going to change that to just the following TWL season, 'never' is a bit harsh.

[tragiK]

considering this ruling only affects quake...

given the fact that vys was banned from twl last season and therefore didn't play a single game, shouldn't he not be on that list?

also, say i were to captain quake until after qualifications, then ignite and vys re-cap... we gonna get dq'd for that?

[MirrorriM]

Doesnt matter if they never played, they were still a captain of the squad and had responsibility over it.

If you capped in place of them, that's fine. However, if they are ever remade captains during the full TWL season, the squad is automatically DQ'd.

[tragiK]

in a related topic, i would like to defend ignite as captain

if i'm reading the rule correctly, it was conceived as a way to punish captains that "don't take twl seriously", prevent squads from dissolving, and otherwise put a damper on trench wars' premier event. and, like many rules, while written with good intentions, ultimately fails in execution and actual applicability.

for example

the reason build was replaced by disoblige last season in twld was because of a rule that stated the minimum roster size for a twl squad must be 8. i believe this is to be fair to those twlb teams, who must field a minimum of 8 players. build was showing 5 players every week, and playing quite well, enough to make playoffs - ultimately succumbing to some disofag who combed through the rules to have his team get stomped first round in playoffs.

as such, the spirit of twl is to provide an atmosphere of competition at the highest level. the 8-minimum rule was clearly conceived with good intentions but did not consider the possibility of a wb-exclusive squad with only 7 rostered. given the fact that two subs are allowed in a 5v5 in twld, 7 people is the max that are allowed to play anyways, so why should the minimum be 8 for a twld squad?

similarly, this banned-captain list is one of those rules that makes sense, but ultimately doesn't work. as subspace remains a game, and as most of its players still prioritize real life over a game, it's understandable that situations may arise that cause someone to leave for extended periods. it was unfortunate that ignite could not continue capping puma, but i believe somebody in his family was dying of cancer. so it goes. without ignite heading the ship, the squad lost direction and motivation, eventually leading to its drop out. this is unfortunate, but i am happy to report that ignite no longer has any more family members suffering from cancer.

as such, we should look at his track record since then, leading up to the present day. after taking control of paladen, he make some aggressive recruiting, which eventually resulted in the #1 twdd squad, and a 29 game win streak, which included all of the top squads. now, the heist of ignite's captain position in paladen has been well documented, but suffice to say had he remained captain, paladen would have been one of the top squads competing in twld.

and somehow, through no fault of his own, the paladen illuminati took it upon themselves to restore their old band of 10 year vets who have never gotten good and therefore have to "play for fun" (i dunno, winning a game seems more fun to me than losing), and promptly saw their dd rating drop at least 300 points in the span of a few days. but i digress.

so ignite, being the 10 hour a day nerd that he is, gets his captain hat back on and starts quake, which, in the span of a week or two, has destroyed the dd ladder and is currently on a 19 game win streak.

fact: ignite is a good captain. those that still believe he is paying people need to get their head out of their ass. it's a joke. ha ha.

fact: ignite's squads tend to play very well in wb. first 29 game win streak with paladen, now 19 with quake. this is not a coincidence.

fact: ignite is dedicated to his squad. this is illustrated by the fact that hes online some 10 hours a day 7 days a week, rarely playing the actual game. his time is spent scouting players, recruiting, talking to vets, and spamming chat=corvez. it's quite possible he's the most dedicated player in tw, and he doesn't even play.

the rule was put into place to prevent squads from dissolving. there's several problems with this -

one, there's 3 captains for any particular squad. maybe one has a history of dissolving. but as long as one of the 3 captains is deemed as reliable, what's the problem.

two - just like scores from previous twl seasons matter little in predicting how well a particular player will play this season, history has little to do with predicting how long a squad will last, or how loyal a particular player will be. rather, records from the current twd reset should be given the most weight, and in this respect, ignite has been very reliable as a captain.

three - it doesn't mean anything. if it was enforced, ignite and vys would be (A) and somebody else would take over as (C), but the only thing that changes is the tag. it's still ignite and vys' squad. this is a big deal when you consider that ignite is one of those people that has relegated himself to full-time captain. he doesn't play anymore. he finds more entertainment and worth in networking, leading, and otherwise running a potential twld championship squad. if you take away his captain, what purpose is there for him? yes, he can be captain "in spirit", but that's retarded. the (C) matters.

yes, i understand that rules are rules, but rules were written by mistake-prone people. it's my belief that this rule is a mistake, and if enforced, you are taking away the motivation of one particular captain to keep running his squad. since only two captains are impacted by this ruling, it's kind of a big deal.

[Capital Knockers]

I don't think either of them, with their historys, should be playing the game let alone be captaining a twl squad. They've both had an entire collection of warnings and bannings. negative events seem to follow them like a shadow. I'll give ignite some credit for being able to captain a squad, and vys for saying some funny shit occasionally - but I stick to my guns regarding these two.

[Kid Kaos]

Thats pretty Lame if you ask me. Vys technically should'nt be on that list sinc eyou just changed it to 1 year cap ban and vys didnt participate in TWL last season. And Ignite did not do anything wrong when he dissolved his squad since he had a family illness and knew he would not be around to scheadule matches and do other captain duties. He dissolved his squad to let another squad take a shot at TWL. Which is not a bad thing. I really feel this is a shot at Quake personally by staff members who are biased. ITs rediculous and you know it.

[Heroin Bob]

Thats pretty Lame if you ask me. Vys technically should'nt be on that list sinc eyou just changed it to 1 year cap ban and vys didnt participate in TWL last season. And Ignite did not do anything wrong when he dissolved his squad since he had a family illness and knew he would not be around to scheadule matches and do other captain duties. He dissolved his squad to let another squad take a shot at TWL. Which is not a bad thing. I really feel this is a shot at Quake personally by staff members who are biased. ITs rediculous and you know it.

you name assisstants to do things like that when your not around as captain..... no need to dissolve

[Jeenyuss]

jaa you're much more qualified as cap anyway, gonna cap the first three league squad in tw history.

edit: ignite does take his spaceships pretty seriously though. maybe the point twl ops are trying to make is a beneficial one but if what he's saying is true (about his grandma) i'm not sure he should be banned from capping. this is a good rule and everything, and i understand exceptions and case by case kind of things is what you're trying to avoid but maybe this is an exception. i don't think ignite would ditch his squad mid-twl. why would he? it's not like he plays the game too often anymore. i'm on a twdt squad with the guy and he doesn't shut the fuck up about lineups and waivers. he seems pretty committed to it.

[Capital Knockers]

jaa you're much more qualified as cap anyway, gonna cap the first three league squad in tw history.

edit: ignite does take his spaceships pretty seriously though. maybe the point twl ops are trying to make is a beneficial one but if what he's saying is true (about his grandma) i'm not sure he should be banned from capping. this is a good rule and everything, and i understand exceptions and case by case kind of things is what you're trying to avoid but maybe this is an exception. i don't think ignite would ditch his squad mid-twl. why would he? it's not like he plays the game too often anymore. i'm on a twdt squad with the guy and he doesn't shut the fuck up about lineups and waivers. he seems pretty committed to it.

I suppose if there is a reason like that an exception can be made. Even to the people that don't exactly like the guy, he's proven he can cap a squad. That's what we want most, is squads that can stay together and competitive and entire season, and it seems like he can make that happen.

[Jessup]

I suppose if there is a reason like that an exception can be made. Even to the people that don't exactly like the guy, he's proven he can cap a squad. That's what we want most, is squads that can stay together and competitive and entire season, and it seems like he can make that happen.

Ditto..i gotta say this sounds a bit harsh to me...Even though i backstabbed ignite and reclaimed paladen i was hoping the guy would get a chance to make his own squad and do his thing. If he hasn't been proven to cheat or something I dont see why he can't play. Aren't there squads every year who drop out by default? I dunno though in mirrorrim's defense there is some rule apparently that caps agree to before twl. I'm a little perplexed.

[Scoop]

Wasnt basingcrew kicked out of twl too last season? So that would mean sumpson and others couldn't cap that squad either. Also I don't think vys should even be allowed to play twl. About ignite, just let him cap he cares a lot.