vys

[Dwopple]

i saw izor's name under the creator of this thread, and all that came to mind was:


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[fLaReD]

vys owns heavy get over it

[Jones]

lol i sent ?cheater calls yesterday because it is ridiculous when a player with the same lag as an euro has more delay on his bullets than brokenfist or dald

[PjOtTeR]

lol i sent ?cheater calls yesterday because it is ridiculous when a player with the same lag as an euro has more delay on his bullets than brokenfist or dald

This....

And I guess that's exactly what people are trying to say... he has all the more advantages yet seems to have no disadvantages whatsoever as to never seeing other ppls shit late and such... And that my friends, whatever way you look at it is just not fair and seems very very very fishy...

[Delectable]

Stop crying and play the game. If you cant kill someone who lags then do 1 of 3 things.... RUN FROM THEM, press F11 or step up your game and learn to overcome it, thats what the great ones do.

[Mattey]

*crosses fingers*

*scans desktop for tranny porn*

aww shucks.

[Capital Knockers]

Izor you've got enough diversity in the people argeeing that server lag is up, and vys has been playing and un-rusting this week to make it a reality. Face it he's good, and what you said to scoop goes both ways (even though it really was a useless point, scoop was just callin' it how he saw it) if vys were on your squad, be it Quicksand or HEAVY - you'd obviously never of made this thread, and if someone else did I bet you'd defend him. I say that not out of spite, or just to be smarmy, I just think if you were in our shoes, on vys' squad - you in all your wb/ss experience would have no reason to be suspicious.

Stop getting cold feet, we're coming holmes. As for the mentality of pirates, if anyone were caught cheating in any way they get axed regardless. Be it vys or anyone else. We don't need to fuck around.

[Izor]

Is knockers absolutely serious? I axed vys right after the soft lock in season 9, then proceeded to have him banned for cheating after the season was over. Go find the thread, I think its in trash talk forum. I have morals about the league itself and while people questioned me for having Deluge on the squad, he was legit and very talented. There was always, always that question with vys, and I decided he wasnt worth it to keep around, like the cowboys have apparently decided with TO.

I asked your captains to make the same responsible decision and they didnt, and thats their choice. The server's lag the past couple weeks hasnt been all the time and has mostly affected western US by what I've seen, and not across the pond.

[Capital Knockers]

Is knockers absolutely serious? I axed vys right after the soft lock in season 9, then proceeded to have him banned for cheating after the season was over. Go find the thread, I think its in trash talk forum. I have morals about the league itself and while people questioned me for having Deluge on the squad, he was legit and very talented. There was always, always that question with vys, and I decided he wasnt worth it to keep around, like the cowboys have apparently decided with TO.

I asked your captains to make the same responsible decision and they didnt, and thats their choice. The server's lag the past couple weeks hasnt been all the time and has mostly affected western US by what I've seen, and not across the pond.

thou art high and mighty

[Izor]

ok knockers, you made false claims about me saying I wouldnt do the same thing im expecting of pirates, when it's been proven in the past that I would. Now you're saying 'youre high and mighty' cause I defended myself?

Going to explain vys's cheat again. Every other laggot that plays this game, be it dald, geio, vitja, brokenfist, and the list goes on, stops before shooting their bullet at you. They rush at you, move back an inch or so, and a delayed bullet comes out from where they stopped. What I saw from vys would be that he would rush me, a bullet would come out as he stopped or before, and he would be slightly in front of where the bullet came out of. The increase in lag goes in well with this because if you tried to do that on a less laggy connection, it would be painfully obvious as you dont shift back as much after releasing boost. The untrained eye would say 'thats just lag' or something similar but someone whos spent a lot of time in wb, or even someone like you who doesnt necessarily play as much as a lot of the better wbs, should be familiar with that and know what I'm talking about.

This isnt a vendetta on your squad. I'll refer you to my original post where I said I dont think its fair if/when hes found to be cheating again, that you guys should be disqualified for playoffs as the rules would pretty clearly state, since youd forfeit a lot of games that he played in. I think mattey scoop herc and chuckle all understand that when I talk to them in game I'm just trying to make them realize how much better of a wb I am than them and I dont dislike them. But think about sweet...these poor guys have been playing nonstop for like 2 weeks and for them to get cheated would be a shame for the zone. Especially cause they'd know if they were or not.

[Capital Knockers]

ok knockers, you made false claims about me saying I wouldnt do the same thing im expecting of pirates, when it's been proven in the past that I would. Now you're saying 'youre high and mighty' cause I defended myself?

Going to explain vys's cheat again. Every other laggot that plays this game, be it dald, geio, vitja, brokenfist, and the list goes on, stops before shooting their bullet at you. They rush at you, move back an inch or so, and a delayed bullet comes out from where they stopped. What I saw from vys would be that he would rush me, a bullet would come out as he stopped or before, and he would be slightly in front of where the bullet came out of. The increase in lag goes in well with this because if you tried to do that on a less laggy connection, it would be painfully obvious as you dont shift back as much after releasing boost. The untrained eye would say 'thats just lag' or something similar but someone whos spent a lot of time in wb, or even someone like you who doesnt necessarily play as much as a lot of the better wbs, should be familiar with that and know what I'm talking about.

This isnt a vendetta on your squad. I'll refer you to my original post where I said I dont think its fair if/when hes found to be cheating again, that you guys should be disqualified for playoffs as the rules would pretty clearly state, since youd forfeit a lot of games that he played in. I think mattey scoop herc and chuckle all understand that when I talk to them in game I'm just trying to make them realize how much better of a wb I am than them and I dont dislike them. But think about sweet...these poor guys have been playing nonstop for like 2 weeks and for them to get cheated would be a shame for the zone. Especially cause they'd know if they were or not.

shhhooooommm

dude, you're the idiot here. I was saying, you being in our shoes, with your experience would see no reason to doubt him in this present time. I don't give a shit about season 9, good job. We gave vys a shot, all knowing his reputation, and thusfar I can honestly say none of us have any suspicions of him cheating. If we did, I'm sure it would be talked about, and the caps would deal with it accordingly. You're basically accusing him of cheating, and by extension insulting our squad as a whole for him being aboard and us just calling it how we see it. If I think vys is cheating I will fucking say so for the world to hear, just as I would for you or anyone else. I'm sure our captains are the same, so fuck off and get good. Vys and the rest of this ship are going to fuck you up. No one is going to throw Pirates out of anywhere, stop posting, and get practicing.

Oh as for the specifics, I do know what you're refering to, and if and when I see it I'll judge it for myself. As would our captains and staff. If he's blatantly cheating as you're saying (not to mention that he'll obviously be even more closely watched after this) he will be caught. Whether it be by one of our captains or higher ranking members, or staff. Until then, just chill, get the sand out of your vagina and play the game.

[Izor]

I dont know what part of 50-34 makes YOU say get good to ME when I played on a laptop and you sat in spec and watched, but its cute.

Were not going anywhere with this. I said the last 2 weeks, not the first 9. I already told you the first 9 weeks of relative mediocrity were legit. Now when playoffs come around he goes from someone the relative skill level of Riverside and becomes King RaCka. I have a very solid track record when it comes to pointing out cheaters like I've said before, and this is no different. Hopefully the cheat is at least benched this week because it IS sweet youre playing, not quake/thunder/heavy and you guys ARE capable of beating them. I already know what I saw. Everyone else that was there knows what was going on. RaCka and I have an excellent close range game so we truly do know when something is a real cheat. I dont go around saying 'hax!!!1' at everyone that kills me. Everyone that plays a close range style on this game has a 'clock' where they know what energy level their opponent should be at relative to them. Naturally being humans, youre not always right, but this is often by milliseconds. The rushes I saw him doing...he should have had to wait a fairly decent amount of time before shooting. I say rushes as plural because once or maybe even twice you can chalk it up to a green or human error. What I'm talking about isnt even bullet eating, although with 200+ ms he has his fair share of that as well.

[Exalt]

shhhooooommm

dude, you're the idiot here. I was saying, you being in our shoes, with your experience would see no reason to doubt him in this present time. I don't give a shit about season 9, good job. We gave vys a shot, all knowing his reputation, and thusfar I can honestly say none of us have any suspicions of him cheating. If we did, I'm sure it would be talked about, and the caps would deal with it accordingly. You're basically accusing him of cheating, and by extension insulting our squad as a whole for him being aboard and us just calling it how we see it. If I think vys is cheating I will fucking say so for the world to hear, just as I would for you or anyone else. I'm sure our captains are the same, so fuck off and get good. Vys and the rest of this ship are going to fuck you up. No one is going to throw Pirates out of anywhere, stop posting, and get practicing.

Oh as for the specifics, I do know what you're refering to, and if and when I see it I'll judge it for myself. As would our captains and staff. If he's blatantly cheating as you're saying (not to mention that he'll obviously be even more closely watched after this) he will be caught. Whether it be by one of our captains or higher ranking members, or staff. Until then, just chill, get the sand out of your vagina and play the game.

no offense knockers, but izor knows more about ship #1 and what cheating is in this game than you ever will...

It is true izor has gotten lots of cheaters banned, and he does not claim it very much... and the few times he does it turns out ot be legit...

vys cheats, he always has, and he always will... you are just defending the squad pirates at this point with your statements, but if vys was not on pirates you would be on his case as well... and you know that

Vys cheats, and I hope he gets lifebanned again if he does it during a real twl game... its bullshit that he even thinks its ok to even be EVEN CLOSE TO IFFY on the subject of cheats after a previous lifeban... he brought this all on himself and he will not live it down EVER AGAIN if he is even close to being suspicious... once a cheater always a cheater... he should know better than to even let his play get close to the border of possible cheating at this point, and thats the bottem line... he had his chances before and if he cheats now he is throwing them all away again, and taking pirates down with him, and its pirates fault for allowing it to happen.. simple as that

[PjOtTeR]

Stop crying and play the game. If you cant kill someone who lags then do 1 of 3 things.... RUN FROM THEM, press F11 or step up your game and learn to overcome it, thats what the great ones do.

Haha, overcome it the delectable way? or what are you implying? roflmao

Oh, and Izor is a tool for thinking Vys cheats... Izor cheats himself, you all cheat FUCKIN COCKSOCKERS!!

[Dabram]

I haven't been active enough to watch Vys play this season.. But there's a good reason I will never recruit people like Vys, Delectable etc.
If someone has played this game for over 7 years (or w/e long they've been playing), and all those years are full with bans for cheating and suspicion of cheating, well then I somehow doubt he's ever going to change his ways. Vys hasn't actually showed he suddenly grew up either.. like with the last draft-league-thing..

I'm not saying Izor is right. But I'd advice Pirates to be a little less quick to jump on the defense for a guy like Vys. You can't tell me you honestly think he doesn't have it in him to cheat again. I wouldn't be surprised if he just tried to tweak w/e he is doing to a level which he'd think isn't noticeable or w/e.

If we wouldn't have had become such a thin population, I'm sure Vys wouldn't have been given another chance.

Pirates, you better cross your fingers nothing happens, but you probably have been doing that ever since you decided it was worth it to take this guy on board.


ps. I think it's hilarious Delectable thinks he has any merit to post in this thread.