A few regular season TWLD awards

[Jones]

yes it makes you a douche :~o)

[pascone]

1) Mythril still lag cheats, dur...
2) Mythril has played in many more dd's with his squardron than Ease has.
3) Ease has a more consistent k/d ratio and rating.
4) MM89 has an overall better record in not only TWLD, but all TWL leagues.
5) Jones has done excellent for someone who doesn't have any team support.
6) Out of the top 10 warbird's of the regular season, there are far more "valuable" players than Mythril.

Player Squad G R WBK W L AVK HW AVD AVP RT LO SUB TP

Ease Thunder 8 8 107 107 57 13 18 7 3390 8721 0 0 2:22:41
megaman89 dicE 11 11 126 126 99 11 17 9 2836 7046 2 0 2:33:02
scoop Mad 10 10 108 108 76 11 14 8 2759 6388 4 0 2:40:51
Jones Fatal 11 11 112 112 96 10 18 9 2593 5895 2 0 3:01:57
Caos dicE 11 11 114 114 93 10 13 8 2653 5558 1 0 3:25:46
RaCka Quicksand 7 7 82 82 54 12 17 8 3004 5254 1 0 1:53:07
Mythril Epidemic 10 10 101 101 69 10 13 7 2519 5228 0 0 3:00:45
Apok Mad 8 8 88 88 65 11 14 8 2802 5170 2 0 2:01:43
WAR Epidemic 8 8 88 88 59 11 16 7 2814 5147 6 0 2:15:49
Weak Quicksand 9 9 94 94 77 10 14 9 2645 5112 1 2 1:56:33

7) Scoop is another that's been overlooked this season.
8) Comparing Ease to Mythril, Ease has played in less games, has more overall kills, more kills, less deaths, more kills per round, a better highest kill record, same amount of deaths per round, a much better average points per game, and a better rating.
9) A squad getting a perfect regular season is a squad effort, to place an mvp on one specific squad member is excluding all the effort put forth by his squadmates.
10) Also, Epidemic was in only one league this season and has played with, for the most part, the same 5 to 7 players all season. While Ease plays and practiced for all three leagues. Epidemic also plays way more dd's than Thunder does. Most of the warbirds you mentioned for Thunder hardly ever log on and/or ever practice together.

Who you consider "valuable" seems more like sucking up more than anything imho.

Merry Christmas!

you're the king of excuses when it comes to twl, so when mythril is playing all these dd's, you might notice none of them have been with those same 6-7 people that actually play in twl. we saw how much that affected you vs sage. apparently that doesn't affect mythril at all. also, our squad plays in twjd and twbd. that's not exactly warbird practice.


anyway, jones is right. you took this fairly personally for some reason

[Kid Kaos]

Hes mad that scoop didnt even get mentioned I guess.

[Delectable]

sup jones

[Mythril]

1) Mythril still lag cheats, dur...

I stopped taking you seriously there.

I've dd'd so much because I'm not sure if you're aware, but I was banned for over 3 years and was unbanned right before TWLD started. As an overall player, it's not easy remembering how to do everything (especially rushing.) I didn't feel completely comfortable until week 5 or 6 of the season. Now, I could easily not play at all and still perform every Sunday.

Since TWL started, I've dd'd with PWND, Audrey, and Tanzu at least 10x more than any of Epidemic's starters. Now I just dd for fun, not for "practice" and not to "team better." The starters never play together during the week, and we never use coords. I'm not sure pascone even enters a warbird until sundays. All these excuses I've been reading for bad TWL play on this forum is ridiculous.

[Kid Kaos]

Well some people are different form others. Like me, if I step away for like amonth, and then come back im gonna be shitty. I have to stay active to keep my skills active. OThers dont need to do that, and usually they are the better wbs in the zone. I smoke too much weed to be as consistent as you or dele or ease or anyone. lol. I still think Mythril deserves this award that means nothing at all. Stylez is just upset nobody from his squad was mentioned.

[Black Mage]

1) Mythril still lag cheats, dur...
2) Mythril has played in many more dd's with his squardron than Ease has.

So these are meaningless to the discussion

3) Ease has a more consistent k/d ratio and rating.

That's why I named him Most Outstanding Player.

4) MM89 has an overall better record in not only TWLD, but all TWL leagues.
5) Jones has done excellent for someone who doesn't have any team support.

I mentioned them both in the 11 games section. Do you watch real sports? I was giving out the award in the style of them. If your team misses the playoffs or barely makes them, it essentially eliminates you from serious contention. If you were that valuable, your team would have competed for the top prize.

6) Out of the top 10 warbird's of the regular season, there are far more "valuable" players than Mythril.

Player Squad G R WBK W L AVK HW AVD AVP RT LO SUB TP

Ease Thunder 8 8 107 107 57 13 18 7 3390 8721 0 0 2:22:41
megaman89 dicE 11 11 126 126 99 11 17 9 2836 7046 2 0 2:33:02
scoop Mad 10 10 108 108 76 11 14 8 2759 6388 4 0 2:40:51
Jones Fatal 11 11 112 112 96 10 18 9 2593 5895 2 0 3:01:57
Caos dicE 11 11 114 114 93 10 13 8 2653 5558 1 0 3:25:46
RaCka Quicksand 7 7 82 82 54 12 17 8 3004 5254 1 0 1:53:07
Mythril Epidemic 10 10 101 101 69 10 13 7 2519 5228 0 0 3:00:45
Apok Mad 8 8 88 88 65 11 14 8 2802 5170 2 0 2:01:43
WAR Epidemic 8 8 88 88 59 11 16 7 2814 5147 6 0 2:15:49
Weak Quicksand 9 9 94 94 77 10 14 9 2645 5112 1 2 1:56:33

Which of those above him played the biggest role on an undefeated team? I listed all of the players above him on my runners up list, I just felt Mythril deserved it more for his role on the best team.

7) Scoop is another that's been overlooked this season.

He's been on the list for "in the running" since my first look.

8) Comparing Ease to Mythril, Ease has played in less games, has more overall kills, more kills, less deaths, more kills per round, a better highest kill record, same amount of deaths per round, a much better average points per game, and a better rating.

Ease has played in less games, indeed. That was one of the main reasons I gave it to Mythril. Ease DNP in over 25% of the season and his team went 2-1 in those games. Two of them against playoff teams. In fact, the team was 1-1 against playoff teams without him, and 1-2 when he actually played. Considering that he plays with a squad full of current/former LD all-stars, should his maximum value have led to wins for his squad against even the best other squads? In fact, his team was 0-2 when he MVP'd against other playoff squads. Perhaps something about his play-style earns kills while not putting his squad in the best position to win?

9) A squad getting a perfect regular season is a squad effort, to place an mvp on one specific squad member is excluding all the effort put forth by his squadmates.

But sometimes you need to recognize an individual from an excellent squad in order to bestow more honor on them all. I'm sure Mythril will recognize his teammates played a huge role in his success this season.

BUT, at the same time, Mythril was the most consistent member of that team. And the intangibles he provided (I believe he and Deluge were the catalysts for their play-style) is shown by their 2nd closest win all season (ok, so it was tied for that). Epidemic won 50-47...against Serenity. In the only game Mythril did not play.

10) Also, Epidemic was in only one league this season and has played with, for the most part, the same 5 to 7 players all season. While Ease plays and practiced for all three leagues. Epidemic also plays way more dd's than Thunder does. Most of the warbirds you mentioned for Thunder hardly ever log on and/or ever practice together.

Irrelevant for an LD season-only awards. As impressive as it is that Ease had to split his practice time and still dominated, its just as impressive that Mythril did not play for 3 years and came back with as much quality as he did. Maybe if Ease had practiced more and showed up to more games, his team would have won more games. Maybe if Mythril had gone 25-0 against Mad and Thunder we wouldn't be having this discussion. Leave the maybes out of it.

Pascone and Mythril above me mentioned how little their actual line DDs together also.

Who you consider "valuable" seems more like sucking up more than anything imho.

Are you kidding? Look up some of my TWDT Hot or Nots...I think I asked Ease for his number at one point.

Merry Christmas!

And to you as well. It's a very good debate. It's hard to deny the numbers/kills that Ease put up, but I think that if you go beyond the statistics, Mythril was a more valuable player.

[pascone]

was mythril comeback player of the year?

[Delectable]

WAR for 'Most Improved Player' of TWLD Season 13

[With Ease]

Ease has played in less games, indeed. That was one of the main reasons I gave it to Mythril. Ease DNP in over 25% of the season and his team went 2-1 in those games. Two of them against playoff teams. In fact, the team was 1-1 against playoff teams without him, and 1-2 when he actually played. Considering that he plays with a squad full of current/former LD all-stars, should his maximum value have led to wins for his squad against even the best other squads? In fact, his team was 0-2 when he MVP'd against other playoff squads. Perhaps something about his play-style earns kills while not putting his squad in the best position to win?

Look, I don't care who you nominate and I'm perfectly fine with Mythril being your choice. But to insinuate my style is what has made us lose games is annoying. Show me these 'all-stars' in my squad. Do you mean the ones that are currently negative? I think you overestimate thunder this year. B4ser simply isn't the same warbird he once was and he doesn't even care enough to fix it. Burnt also has been having a rather crappy season, and Raspi has only showed to a couple of games. Reaver doesn't show because he's trying to get with this girl that hates subspace.

Your statistics are rather skewed. If Zizu hadn't pulled a miracle versus Dice then that 1-2 vs playoff squads would probably become 3-2. In the losses...well...I can't really do much against Mad when burnt dies out first 2-10, would love to see anyone negate that.

[Turban]

omg wb is such an interesting ship. look at this drama!

:fear:

[Jones]

its ok ease, as long as you dont do it to us

[Kid Kaos]

lol I respect mythril 4 being a good wb and all but to say he never evaded his 3 year ban at all is a joke. So to say he hasnt been playing 4 3 years since twl is false. Im willing 2 bet he was evading atleast a good month or 2 before twl.

[pascone]

lol I respect mythril 4 being a good wb and all but to say he never evaded his 3 year ban at all is a joke. So to say he hasnt been playing 4 3 years since twl is false. Im willing 2 bet he was evading atleast a good month or 2 before twl.

he wasn't because he didn't know how to evade. i know you don't believe because i'm apparently always lying when i'm always dropping knowledge. just deal with the fact that he plays a lot and found his game in that time.

[Black Mage]

Look, I don't care who you nominate and I'm perfectly fine with Mythril being your choice. But to insinuate my style is what has made us lose games is annoying. Show me these 'all-stars' in my squad. Do you mean the ones that are currently negative? I think you overestimate thunder this year. B4ser simply isn't the same warbird he once was and he doesn't even care enough to fix it. Burnt also has been having a rather crappy season, and Raspi has only showed to a couple of games. Reaver doesn't show because he's trying to get with this girl that hates subspace.

Your statistics are rather skewed. If Zizu hadn't pulled a miracle versus Dice then that 1-2 vs playoff squads would probably become 3-2. In the losses...well...I can't really do much against Mad when burnt dies out first 2-10, would love to see anyone negate that.

It's really all in the name of persuasion/argument. At the time, I really made a tossup decision between you and Mythril. But by God, I will argue to my death that decision now that I made it.