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  • riske
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    Originally posted by Oranje View Post
    Still sounds belim style to me, do you not use bullets to keep charge of main spots in an arena with ur team or bullets to help a teammate escape and disallowing opponents from bombing easily?
    Did you stop reading mid post to ask that..?

    Of course there are times when you can do the exact opposite of what I just said
    I guess I should put "should" instead of "can".


    Another thing: Turning. Ive never heard anyone talk about it before, but really, being able to turn well(not talking about just going around walls) is a very big part about being able to dodge/kill people, no matter what ship you're in.

    It's most obvious when someone is chasing you, and are very close to you, its less obvious when youre farther apart(because you have more options)

    Trust me. I'm not great at this game, but, I have perfect strategies. I just suck at executing them.
    Last edited by riske; 05-05-2011, 08:05 PM.

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  • RednaZ
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    Originally posted by riske View Post
    The very best rec whores tend to have really low bullet per second.
    Fixed

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  • Oranje
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    Originally posted by riske View Post
    If you have good wb aim try being offensive, if you are good at running try to lure people into chasing you.

    The very best javs tend to have really low bullet per second. Dont use bullets unless you have a good chance of hitting, otherwise its just energy wasted you could have used in another way(be it regrouping, bombing, thrusting, etc).
    Still sounds belim style to me, do you not use bullets to keep charge of main spots in an arena with ur team or bullets to help a teammate escape and disallowing opponents from bombing easily?

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  • riske
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    If you have good wb aim try being offensive, if you are good at running try to lure people into chasing you.

    The very best javs tend to have really low bullet per second. Dont use bullets unless you have a good chance of hitting, otherwise its just energy wasted you could have used in another way(be it regrouping, bombing, thrusting, etc). Of course there are times when you can do the exact opposite of what I just said, like in a 2vs1 for example, to push the person you and your squadie are teaming into a certain direction..

    luckstrayed
    That really isnt a stray.. There is sound reason to hit the angle like that, if the person you are trying to kill is a good flyer, they'll fly right on the edge just 1 or 2 pixels from hitting that wall, if they think you are goign to try that shot they will prolly try to bounce off wall and go backwards, if they dont think you will(think u bluffing energy) they'll probably miss the wall and do what magi pic shows.

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    Originally posted by Jones View Post
    ohhh... thats a pretty long explanation, why don't you just say: "hide behind a wall until enemy shoots a bomb"?

    keep em comin' tho :)
    You could hide behind any wall you want. My suggestion is to either hide or place yourself in a position that enables you to immediately counter-attack.

    But whatever works for you.

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  • Infrared
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    Originally posted by paradise! View Post
    Good Luck and feel free to drop me any messages in game.
    ~~Tata for now
    Great post g, gonna hit you up.

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  • Zeebu
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    :)

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  • paradise!
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    I remember back when ?go javs was active, I used to watch some really good newer players get better and than better than me.

    But now, there's baseelim. Play 100 in a row, try out different styles and see how they work. . However eventually settle down to one style, else you'll end up javing like Struck. Kid's about the most CONFUSED player on this game, like good lord. And if you actually want to learn how to get better, i honestly suggest watching the best players on some of the top squads But I recommend not spectating Ease or Myself. Most of my maneuvers contain an implied: "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME" . But, if you do spectate me and decide to replicate my moves, you will be required to sign a mandatory waiver, which I can have e-mailed to you within the week!

    Play a few baseelim games without bombing and see how well you can dodge (of course play as if you are bombing, dont be in a corner saying "look mommy! i'm getting better!!!!!! I can feel the skills pulsing through my tab key" like are you done?

    Good Luck and feel free to drop me any messages in game.


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  • Jones
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    ohhh... thats a pretty long explanation, why don't you just say: "hide behind a wall until enemy shoots a bomb"?

    keep em comin' tho :)

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    Originally posted by Reab View Post
    It would be dumb to go <- in that situation anyways since bomb most likely gets luckstrayed on the platform below you and can kill you.
    Dumb for who to go <- ? Which platform below me at which moment?

    I just brought up that scenario in particular because it's 1. common, 2. easy to demonstrate, 3. results idealy, and 4. is my favorite shot that I have actually successfully performed on countless occasions (which I admit is possibly mirrored by the amount of times it has failed such as in times where I mistime the lunge, misfire the bullets/bomb in the counter-attack, or the opponent was smart enough to back up and take cover instead of watching their own bomb.)

    And another thing.... a good way to improve your dodging is to not watch where your bomb goes. Many times will there be floating bullets idling near where you decide to launch a bomb. You'll unknowingly drift into a bullet while watching your own bomb, in amazement, miss it's target. There are other occasions where watching your bomb's flight path would be a bad idea, especially in JD matches.

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  • Reab
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    It would be dumb to go <- in that situation anyways since bomb most likely gets luckstrayed on the platform below you and can kill you.

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    Here's an example of the common bounces I was speaking of earlier. If you know a lot of these common shots, you'll see your opponents begin to set up for that shot. In the mean time, you could set up for your counter-attack. The image below shows one of my favorite counter-attacks.

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  • Oranje
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    Originally posted by MaGi kOz View Post
    know all the possible jav bounces and typical shots. if the enemy is setting himself up for a bounce that would look like you're at the receiving end for, dodge then.

    For counter attacks, dodge into a position that compromises his original approach before he even gets to set up.

    If you don't understand what I just said... play more javs.

    I'll post a screen shot later to show a perfect example of what I just said.
    I think you are dock> and no1 in staff has proven to me that you are not dock>

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    know all the possible jav bounces and typical shots. if the enemy is setting himself up for a bounce that would look like you're at the receiving end for, dodge then.

    For counter attacks, dodge into a position that compromises his original approach before he even gets to set up.

    If you don't understand what I just said... play more javs.

    I'll post a screen shot later to show a perfect example of what I just said.

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  • Harder
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    thanks

    thanks

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