Appeal: Sage vs. Dice (TWLJ Week 7)

[Vatican Assassin]

The rule has nothing to do with things beyond TWL, it is meant to restrict the time an appeal is allowed to be filed. Once filed, discovery is allowed to take whatever time is needed.

Note: My only beef is the crappy state the rules are in, making things hard for players AND staff to deal with this kind of stuff. Evidence that the current rules suck; over and over staff is faced with making common sense decisions that stand in complete opposition to the published rules. This has had many bad ‘side effect’ including undermining the rules themselves and making life miserable for the people who are dedicating a substantial chunk of their free time to this community.
eph

ok thats it eph, as you now have remarked upon this multiple times in multiple seasons, I officially nominate you to go over the rules and make them perfect. I'm so serious.

oh and BTW

this is officially going down as the "but I didn't receive a warning for saying dingledoink!" appeal

[Ephemeral]

A little bit more involved with that, since anyone would have to have waited until i was online. I was made aware on monday, so less then 24hours. As the_paul stated, this is hardly a normal appeal, anything but, and with a ban involved it takes time to do the background work to get reasons for bans etc. As for the ban itself, since a silence should not have been issued, it mutes the point of evasion. Staff have strict guidelines to follow, and 99% of the time (which includes hms) it is done correctly and its rare that i need to lift a ban, or suspend someones banning ability etc.

The rule has nothing to do with things beyond TWL, it is meant to restrict the time an appeal is allowed to be filed. Once filed, discovery is allowed to take whatever time is needed.

Note: My only beef is the crappy state the rules are in, making things hard for players AND staff to deal with this kind of stuff. Evidence that the current rules suck; over and over staff is faced with making common sense decisions that stand in complete opposition to the published rules. This has had many bad ‘side effect’ including undermining the rules themselves and making life miserable for the people who are dedicating a substantial chunk of their free time to this community.
eph

[mage+]

fuk you hms he did NOTHING wrong...staff abuse like fukin crazy wow. im pissed

[the_paul]

Go ahead and try some retarded hillbilly bullshit and use this as precedence for your appeal. I already warned you guys not to, so go right ahead. I will love to deny an appeal when I don't like them in the first place. It will make my day

[mage+]

Read the ToS faggots, says if any player evades around ignore or ban they get netbanned, zid fag lucky he aint OUTTA HERE #POP

[Jones]

you (staff) really have no clue how you fucked up now and what's gonna happen

[mage+]

I bet sage feels like this kid

[Efhat]

What I'm seeing from this is that you can appeal one of your starters not showing?
Isn't that why you have a 20+ man roster for these type of situations?
Whether he was banned or not, this had NOTHING to do with the ingame play. So next time one of our players lagout because the zone is lagging or the zone is red for them during a TWL match we're allowed to appeal because they werent able to make it? Loooooooooooooooooool
Sage just keeps fucking up their reputation, this is going to be more of a laughing stock next time this match is played

[Demonic]

this just in, you are now allowed to say dingledoink in pub chat, guess those 100000 bans and silenced over this nasty word are illusions

oh very clever, but it normally helps if you warn a player first, before you start throwing out silences. Same rules as it has been since 2000, zidane had no previous active warnings, thus the silence should not be issued unless he repeats offence after the warning.

[mage+]

Because every now and then 2 things can happens. 1) mage+ can encourage staff to ban sage members by threatening to quit the game if it happens again, and 2) Cres can drop some .gif gems

Ill quit if you get horse kicked in the throat noob #LittleBitchOnThePrairy

edit: Meddi thats from skins, season 4 she's one of the twins!!! good show

[Vatican Assassin]

A little bit more involved with that, since anyone would have to have waited until i was online. I was made aware on monday, so less then 24hours. As the_paul stated, this is hardly a normal appeal, anything but, and with a ban involved it takes time to do the background work to get reasons for bans etc. As for the ban itself, since a silence should not have been issued, it mutes the point of evasion. Staff have strict guidelines to follow, and 99% of the time (which includes hms) it is done correctly and its rare that i need to lift a ban, or suspend someones banning ability etc.

this just in, you are now allowed to say dingledoink in pub chat, guess those 100000 bans and silenced over this nasty word are illusions

[Demonic]

ya diakka posted this fucking retarded appeal on tuesday at 2:29 pm. everything HMS did was normal and expected and according to rules, zidane is a child, sage is looking really really gay at this time and glav mene squall and hellkite you all know diakka and zidane are being huge faggots huh don't you. I'm trying to picture myself sending in an appeal because one of my players got silenced for saying dingledoink, promptly changed his name and got banned and I'm just not seeing it. honor -1.

A little bit more involved with that, since anyone would have to have waited until i was online. I was made aware on monday, so less then 24hours. As the_paul stated, this is hardly a normal appeal, anything but, and with a ban involved it takes time to do the background work to get reasons for bans etc. As for the ban itself, since a silence should not have been issued, it mutes the point of evasion. Staff have strict guidelines to follow, and 99% of the time (which includes hms) it is done correctly and its rare that i need to lift a ban, or suspend someones banning ability etc.

[Crescent Seal]

He is being rewarded because he still managed to keep zidane from participating in TWL.

[RednaZ]

Either we reward abuse or bad behavior.

No not really, we are just rewarding abuse. HMS has probably been dealt with in some manner and he has absolutely no stake in any of this so how exactly is that being rewarded?

[Vatican Assassin]

ya diakka posted this fucking retarded appeal on tuesday at 2:29 pm. everything HMS did was normal and expected and according to rules, zidane is a child, sage is looking really really gay at this time and glav mene squall and hellkite you all know diakka and zidane are being huge faggots huh don't you. I'm trying to picture myself sending in an appeal because one of my players got silenced for saying dingledoink, promptly changed his name and got banned and I'm just not seeing it. honor -1.