Appeal for Spastic vs Sweet

[Ephemeral]

Wow, what a surprise. Drama over poorly written and implemented rules.
I love it when the ‘this is the rule so we must follow it’ is rolled out whenever someone loses a match. Where is the complaining about the rules before the season starts? Where is the motivation or willingness to drive changes without the context of a losing game? Grow some balls and/or some brains; the rules have sucked, and have not been followed, for over a decade. If you don’t like it, find some motivation to make productive changes when it doesn’t benefit your squad.

They are the same as the ‘rules’ that you might find if invited to go swimming at a neighbor’s house; don’t run around the pool, don’t piss in the pool; you should wear a bathing suit, etc. You know that as soon as things get going the rules will be bent/broken in some way. So another solution if you don’t like it; stop going over to swim.
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[Welfare]

Does it matter? Not like either squad has a chance to win TWLB

[Reckful]

You know what else is retarded man? A TWL op giving premission Pure_Luck/JAMAL to add RUCCI/Max B/proxy for the game then changing their mind before the game. Now that's retarded don't you agree?

Given I was the TWL op running most of the show this sunday Ill point out I denied Spastic permission to play rucci/max b/proxy. The reason I denied them was because of the bias it would show towards them as their were a number of other players not able to play this week for the same rule. Coming to me with "humid said this" when hes not here to verify it wont help the cause of letting them play as I told PL sunday. As for the situation with Eelam M_M God granted him the ability to play this week the appeal is still being discussed between TWL ops and should have a final descision in the next day or two.

[Tsunami]

3.05c, as a matter of plain language, clearly states that a player in Eelam's situation must wait a round before playing. The "Preamble" as it were, also states that TWL Ops can revise the rules (presumably under their discretion) "but notice will be given on the official TWL site (twl.trenchwars.org) beforehand."

Even if we assume the quoted "Preamble" allows the TWL Ops to deviate from the rules in situations they deem necessary in order to be equitable, it seems to me there was a clear lack of notice to all parties involved. The easiest thing to do would be to deny the appeal and "Let bygones be bygones and you gon' get the hell on..." (quoting Ms. Jackson by Outkast). However this would inevitably frustrate the purpose of 3.05c.

In order to be truly equitable, whatever decision the Ops arrive at in this appeal, it must be applied to Sweet's LJ as well. There was a clear lack of notice involving the same player in both games and to ignore one because it was not raised on appeal would make the existence of the TWL rules seem arbitrary as already noted in this thread. Eelam was deemed eligible to play for this past round because of his early departure during Round 1. Therefore, equity would dictate that if that rationale underlies the TWL Ops' decision, Eelam and Sweet should have been given notice of his eligibility prior to any matches being played.

[Eelam]

What i find hilarious is the fact that I was the only one allowed to play because of my unique situation. Megaman/poxy/rucci/max b all would still be unable to play. MM God's decision to allow me play was not one that had any effect on the other players. So Demonic, your rationale for allowing the appeal is flawed, as those individuals would still not be able to play regardless if they showed or not.

PS -Thanks for throwing me under the bus LF

[gran guerrero]

guy obviously doesn't understand the appeal system

move along

[Burnt]

This appeal should be denied. It would be completely unfair to force Sweet to win twice for it to count where as Spastic would only have to win 1 out of 2.

[gran guerrero]

if anything, a replay is at least deserved

a majority of the players for spastic were disinterested and frustrated with the fact that 3 players who were supposed to play were told they couldn't play an hour before the game and players who logged on a minute before the game started were told they had to suit up.

whether we win or lose, a replay is at minimum justice for the incompetence of twl ops who each make judgments on their own separate rules rather than playing by the uniform rules set by the league.

[LaG KiLLeR]

If you really want to be "fair" to spastic then schedule a replay with same lines minus eelam

Situation resolved by LF's proposal. This thread can now be closed.

[Efhat]

You know what else is retarded man? A TWL op giving premission Pure_Luck/JAMAL to add RUCCI/Max B/proxy for the game then changing their mind before the game. Now that's retarded don't you agree?

It isn't our fault there was a handful of misunderstandings with TWL staff. We did what we were told to do.

[PrOnEsSim]

Are you retarded? A head TWL Op and SYSOP gave LF PERMISSION to add Eelam about an HOUR or two BEFORE the LB match.

You know what else is retarded man? A TWL op giving premission Pure_Luck/JAMAL to add RUCCI/Max B/proxy for the game then changing their mind before the game. Now that's retarded don't you agree?

[Riverside]

On behalf of Thunder, I'm appealing the game vs Stray where delectable was granted permission by Pure_Luck and pascone (TWL Head OP) to play in that Finals game despite being TW banned. It doesn't matter that it already happened that the decision was already made, presidents pascone and Pure_Luck went against the rules, and MUST be stopped. I didn't personally participate in the game, but I want to see justice being served.

I await your decision, and hope you make the right call. Let TWLD Finals Season 12? be replayed, for the sake of principle.

[Efhat]

Even President's can be overruled... by guess what... LAWS (such as the constitution). Just because the head of TWL says it's OK does not mean he was being unethical (against the rules). If the rules can be over turned like LF is saying then I do not understand why the rules are even there.

Impeach the Ops.

Something that already happened can't be over turned.

[Rucci]

Even President's can be overruled... by guess what... LAWS (such as the constitution). Just because the head of TWL says it's OK does not mean he was being unethical (against the rules). If the rules can be over turned like LF is saying then I do not understand why the rules are even there.

Impeach the Ops.

[Efhat]

The point I brought out, right here. You didnt allow the use of common sense in pre-season because you were too serious about the rules. Shouldn't be allowed this time either.

Are you retarded? A head TWL Op and SYSOP gave LF PERMISSION to add Eelam about an HOUR or two BEFORE the LB match.