TWL Rosters Setup

[Tiny]

Where did you find 30 people to join your squad?

[PrOnEsSim]

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[Crescent Seal]

Then obviously TWD roster limit needs to be corrected for 1-2 league squads. Why have a 30 man roster for TWD and then have to dumb it down to 15 for TWL? Half the fucking roster? If maybe one league squads were limited to 20 for TWD there could have been more competitive squads involved fighting for a spot.

dont worry about it. this way we can both ensure wolf and savanger get disqualified.

[Crescent Seal]

best part is that this change didn't even create any new squads LOL. pandora and fierce are still in tier 1 while value, savanger, and wolf are in tier 2. what the fuck did you faggots accomplish by doing this? we have enemy and juans in LD. unicorns, rifle, etc. still died no matter the limits. people rather quit than create squads.

[Shaddowknight]

people rather quit than create squads.

"People are too spooled to make an effort and just want to reap the rewards of effort put out by others."
More of an issue with the players anymore. I know some people have made new squads, but its hard to get competetive players to play on a squad that will lose more often than win.
There are things to do that could fix this, but it would piss players off and end up making things worse. In realty, there is nothing staff can do to fix things if most players arent willing to do anything on their own.

As for rosters, all TWD squads are 3 league, even if they dont play (5 league if you want to get technical). TWL is more strict with many things, so a more strict roster limit seems fine.

tl;dr: Stop whining and do something if you want shit to get better.
tl;dr v2.0: Step up or shut up.

[Crescent Seal]

In realty, there is nothing staff can do to fix things if most players arent willing to do anything on their own.

are u done...people have 0 expectations out of staff when it comes to fixing anything. why would players want to do anything on their own when most were against this? point is that this change did absolutely nothing but make people go inactive.

[kthx]

pretty sure the people who actually understand this game have been saying this change wouldn't help anything for the 5 years they have been trying to do it. this is the kind of thing that happens when all the good people quit.

[Jessup]

Wanted to pipe in on this thread. A 15 player roster cap for TWL sucks(It's just too few to work with) and anyone who is going to argue for it is probably sitting on a 2 or 3 division squad or not a cap dealing with this. We have already seen Savanger warned in preseason due to the effects of this rule and am fearful that there may be more issues for single division TWL squads as the season progresses. We want TWL to run smoothly and give all the squads competing their best opportunity to bring the top skill level to the league that they can muster. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to have to ax better semi active vets from our roster because they cannot commit to making every TWL game. They all say basically the same thing which is "I can probably make a few games but I really can't tell you which ones now." I don't blame them either and taking an attitude of well it sucks to be you as a squad if you can't manage dealing with this is really insensitive and in the end will weaken the prospects for single division squads being able to compete at their best level. It DOES hurt the squads chances to compete. Players who played this game for so many years DO have more important things in their lives these days such as spending time with their kids or making a living with their job or spending time with wife or girlfriend on the weekends . These aren't the days of old here anymore where there were 700 hardcore addicted players. These 1 league squads are not Dice or Fierce or Pandora with basically the same hardcore line they have used over and over for years on them. I've always been against roster caps in TWD and can respect a fair cap in TWL but come on 15?!?! At this period in this games life with the decline in population and activity why lower limits . You should be raising them if anything. THINK!!!

For the record I could be semi happy with a 20 person roster cap / 25 would make me smile.. Somehow I feel I will forced to frown though and have to limp along just to get through this season not knowing what will happen every Sunday when our match begins. I've also noticed a general consensus in convos amongst caps/players in squads doing single division TWL that this is just one big pain in the butt to deal with. LISTEN!!!

[Jessup]

Shadow no real offence when I disliked ur comment but please remove it from this thread as it in no way pertains to TWL roster cap limits. Still semi upset about the boobie banner thing and the censorship you imposed on it, you can remove this comment when you remove yours............

[zidane]

i can assure you 25 for 3 leagues is much harder than 15 for 1 league... the limits are hard on every squad not just yours

[beam]

paladen is such trash we could give u newbies a 50 player roster cap and u'd still lose every match no one gives a fk bout ur atrocious squad u piece of shit retard fgt jessup

[Rasaq]

Shadow must be staff? What a fucking prick.

[Shaddowknight]

Who is this Shadow guy?

[Jessup]

Zidane> i can assure you 25 for 3 leagues is much harder than 15 for 1 league... the limits are hard on every squad not just yours

Zidane I don't see how it would be harder. You get 10 more people that can show up to play games which dramatically increases your odds of not forfeiting a game.

beam>paladen is such trash we could give u newbies a 50 player roster cap and u'd still lose every match no one gives a fk bout ur atrocious squad u piece of shit retard fgt Jessup

beam who is this "we" . Goes to show your overinflated sense of ego you hold upon yourself. You aren't staff and you aren't a captain. You're such a puss man. Never heard anything from you besides trolling. I'd rather be a faggot then a pathetic attention seeking troll like you are any day of the week . Also Paladen has helped Trench Wars a lot so show some respect. Many many people care about it so STFU fool.

As far as the roster limit goes I have been and will continue to comply with the rules set but I do want to have my input concerning it. I'm definitely not alone with my opposition to it either. That said GL every1 in TWL

[Mythril]

I know the strict roster caps had good intentions but it's clear that it's just not working. It's one thing to make decisions but it's another to make them and then not care about the recoil. If multiple squads are complaining about it, it's probably an issue worth paying attention to. TWL squad depth is more terrible than ever and if the roster caps are going to have a good chance of knocking out any squad at all then it should be reevaluated.

Pandora is lucky to have a roster full of the most active ppl of all time and several multi-leaguers, but even we are struggling with figuring out who deserves the final spots between core/shitty members and more elite players who maybe aren't as "deserving." I think the fairest thing would be to allow an extra 3 spots (coming from the squad's current TWD roster) per TWL roster for 18/23/28.