TWL Finals Preview

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by

Turban and Claus

[ogron]

Claus's Take:


In a rematch of last year's TWLJ Final, Burn will lock horns with Dudgeon. Ease and Zidane will take on megaman89 and Stayon for the third time in a row, while Ease and Mega will be facing off for the sixth time in thirteen seasons.

No one outside of Ease's Thunder core (Thunder/Sk8/Pandora/Burn) and Mega's Dice core (Dice/Dudgeon) has won TWLJ since Season 9, and that trend will continue into Season 20.

TWLJ Champions:

Season 8: Dice
Season 9: Syndicate
Season 10: Thunder
Season 11: Thunder
Season 12: Thunder
Season 13: Thunder
Season 14: Sk8
Season 15: Dice
Season 16: Dice
Season 17: Pandora
Season 18: Pandora
Season 19: Thunder
Season 20: Burn/Dudgeon

While it's become as much Zidane's core as Ease's these past 4 seasons, the only other player from last year's Thunder team is Tiny, as Amnesti quit last week. Kess has solidified his starting spot with excellent performances throughout the playoffs, as has Best. Fahrenheit and Kira have also played well, and could be in the mix.

For Dudgeon, they've remained remarkably consistent, keeping all seven of their main javs from last season, with zero turnover. While Burn has its starting five solidified, Dudgeon has six starters (megaman89/Commodo/Stayon/Dreamwin/Rough/Zizzo) who will likely all see playing time, with maketso as their seventh (He's only played 11 minutes this season, but was inserted into the Finals last year.)

Both teams have tons of talent, Finals experience, and know each other well, although neither are very deep at the position, so lagouts, poor play, etc. could have dire consequences for either squad.

It's extremely difficult to predict these games. Last year's Final went 5 rounds, while Dudgeon 2-0'd the Semi-Finals last year, and Burn 2-0'd the Semi-Finals this year. The only thing I am sure of, is that you'll be seeing two of the best team's in TWLJ history vying for the title. And believe me, there is a lot of history here.

Stayon and Kess will be the first brothers to go head-to-head in a TWL Finals as starters (in both TWLJ and TWLB), something that could have also happened if Potenza beat Burn to reach the Finals on Sunday, as Skepsis (Fierce) and Tanzu (Potenza) are brothers as well.

Rough was part of Burn's core in TWL 17 and 18, before switching over to Dudgeon for TWL 19 and 20, and Ease and him do not get along, Dreamwin was a starter TWL 18 with Pandora, while Tiny and Kess were part of Stayon and Mega's crew for many years as well, on top of having to face each other in the Finals over and over, so there's plenty of history between both sides.

Look for some quality javing and a heavy dose of drama come Sunday.

Good luck to both teams!

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Turban's take:


Without a shadow of doubt there is a ton of rivalry between both of these teams, and this year is simply the matter of history repeating itself with several of the starting players facing against each other yet again in the grand finals.

Despite the fact that both of the teams have had small alterations to their starting lineups over the seasons, the main core has remained mostly intact with no drastic changes through the past few years. As always, it is refreshing to see new faces on both sides, and those newcomers could very well be the determining factor in this evenly matched series with some of these players proving that they deserve to play on the best teams this game has to offer.

One could say that there is a lot on the line in this game as whoever win this series will have the mental edge over their opponents as a large portion of the starting members on both teams will be playing in the basing match followed by this series. This statement is particularly true when considering the volatile roster of BurN which consists of several hotheaded players, and some of these players tend to trouble bouncing back from the frustration of a close loss, and they will be the first ones to fall when their team is playing poorly in a game. We could very well end up seeing the reenactment of the Battle of Carthage with BurN being on the receiving end should they start their series off on the wrong foot resulting in carnage and total annihilation of their squad.


Nonetheless, BurN should still be considered as the slight favorites coming to this match. They have a grand total of three players in their starting lineup attempting to defend their well-earned title from last season, and once again it should be a challenge to add yet another trophy to their rather excessive collections.

BurN has been on an emotional roller coaster ride throughout the season with their moments of pure happiness and bliss, and at times we could see the mood of this squad hit an all-time low which lead into several players leaving the roster in the middle of the season. This exodus of players can only be attributed to the poor player management and lack of camaraderie among within the squad, and it is perhaps the one of greatest weakness of this team which filled with conflicting personalities.

The players you will more than likely see in the starting lineup are Kess, Ease, Zidane, Best, and Tiny. It would be a true shock to see anyone else starting should all of the aforementioned players be available as their remaining substitutes and backups have been uninspiring with their performances this season.

Ease and Zidane have been the bread and butter of their squads for the past few years, and you can always count on them to perform in the most important games. Kess has been a breath of fresh air on the team, and without his contributions we would probably not have seen this team in the grand finals. Best is the player that will make or break this team as on a good day he will miraculously manage to hard carry his team, but unfortunately he is about as likely to have a bad day which leads into early eliminations without accomplishing anything of use to his team. Tiny rounds up their lineup with his consistent performances throughout the season, but he is not someone you can fully rely on in big games like this one.

They also have the option to mix things up by adding players such as Fahrenheit and Kira Yamato, although these players should only be used as a last resort given their uncertain performances, and the fact that their track record has been far from impressive this season. It is also worth noting that with the recent loss of Amnesti, which was due to lack of playtime and disagreements with the captains, this team somehow managed to dug their own grave as they now are facing issues with player depth. Their team will be in a heap of trouble should their main starting members perform at a poor level as they would have to rely on their weaker players to carry their own weight which might be too much to ask in an evenly matched game.


Dudgeon will be the challenger this time around, but only by a very small margin. It would not be a wild assumption to state that this team has a good chance of actually claiming the title, but it does require everything to go according to their game plan. This team has so far been notoriously lead by their captain, Zizzo, whom will be in charge of their lineups, and the fate of this team rests in his hands. He could potentially jeopardize everything should he add himself to the starting lineup, but it is quite probable that he has learned from his past mistakes.

Their starting lineup should be Stayon, Rough, Commodo, Megaman89, and Dreamwin, with Zizzo and Maketso completing their lineup as the primary substitutes. In terms of experience and togetherness, this team does has an advantage over their opponents, although on an individual level they do fall a bit short, but only by a hair's breadth.

Commodo has been a great asset to the team and seems to be the missing link the team has been looking for all these years. He had a stellar season last year, and this year has further solidified his position as one of the better players of the current generation. It has been a joy watch him play with confidence in every match. Stayon and Rough are a good match with their complementing play styles, and on a good day, these two could take control of the match and gain an advantage to their team. Dreamwin and Megaman89 have taken a more supportive role this season, but you should never underestimate the explosiveness of these players when they get rolling in a round.

They also have Zizzo, who had some fantastic performances in the regular season, but as predicted his play has been rather unimaginative in the playoffs. They also have the option to add Maketso to their lineup at any point in time as he has been one of the better performing players on both Dice and Dudgeon in the past eight seasons. His experience and latent ability could prove to be one of the deciding factors should he get the chance to prove himself in the series.


We can and should expect a great series with three extremely close rounds. As far as the predictions go, Dudgeon might be the ones to have the last laugh, but only under certain circumstances. Their team seems to be more far balanced on a mental level, and they are also less likely to collapse under extreme pressure.

As always, good luck to both teams, and may the better team reign victorious!

[ogron]

Claus's take:


Burn and Dudgeon will face off again in TWLB shortly after the TWLJ, so look for the result of the jav match to potentially impact the multi-leaguers play on both sides, with some potential tilting.

This will be a rematch of last year's Final, and the third consecutive final featuring Dice and Pandora's cores.

TWLB Champions:

Season 8: Dice
Season 9: -Final-
Season 10: Dice
Season 11: Dice
Season 12: Penetrate
Season 13: Dice
Season 14: Penetrate
Season 15: Dice
Season 16: Dice
Season 17: Pandora
Season 18: Pandora
Season 19: Dudgeon
Season 20: Burn/Dudgeon

The two cores have won the past six titles in a row, and this Final looks be another exciting match. Unlike TWLJ and TWLD, where the lines are pretty much set, there is a lot of variability and different configurations that could come into play. You could see up to 5 different terriers in the Finals, between Mikkiz, Zizzo, Ogron, Cape, and Dreamwin, depending on lag, performance, and desired style of play (aggressive vs. safe), as well as up to 7 different sharks between Mattey, Zidane, ph, Hulk, Porkjet, Commodo, JAMAL, and Mcvicar, with so many players playing multiple ships on these teams and lag/showing always an issue.

Both teams also have a plethora of TWLB quality spiders, with Dudgeon having started Stayon/Mega/Dreamwin/JAMAL/Mcvicar/Zizzo/Omega Red, and Burn having started Ease/Diakka/M_M God/Hellkite/Ogron/Kess/Hulk.

Mikkiz's lag will be an issue and likely dominate how Dudgeon configures their line. I'm not sure if Dudgeon plans to play Zizzo or Dreamwin in terr (They switched in Zizzo this year, and Dreamwin last.) Burn, meanwhile, has to contend with two top-tier players returning from long absences in Diakka (last played in the Quarter-Finals win vs. Fierce three weeks ago) and Cape (last played in a Round 3 loss vs. Dudgeon six weeks ago) after having beaten Dudgeon in the Semi-Finals without them.

Mattey will be making his return to the TWLB Finals after having missed last year's, and should change the makeup of these games, playing with longtime partner Zidane once again. Porkjet and Commodo have played together all season, although JAMAL did shark the final few games last season, and have been strong all year as well.

Both sides have talented, laggy, experienced overspiders, while at the underspider position Burn and Dudgeon swapped Kess and Mcvicar this season, which should be an interesting side story. Look for brothers Stayon and Kess to duke it out in the under in the Finals.

While Dudgeon won the regular season match 15-7, Burn got the better of them in the Semi-Finals in a 20-14 contest. Both sides swapped victories and losses throughout the regular season and the playoffs last year as well, with the Finals going the full 5 sets, so expect another difficult, hard fought game this Sunday.

Good luck to both teams!


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Turban's take:

This match is going to be a spectacle.

We have the two strongest teams in basing facing against each other in the grand finals, and luckily enough both teams have their clear strengths and weaknesses which will result in this match being a true nail-biter for the all participating players and spectators alike. Both BurN and Dudgeon has showed their prowess as a powerful and well-balanced teams this season, and it will be interesting to see which one of the titans will be victorious at the end of the day.

As far as the main weaknesses go, BurN absolutely hates playing from behind. They have players with temper issues and these players will get frustrated if they can not break the cram swiftly enough, and some of them may even tilt should their opponents get lucky with their prizes from greens with unexpected bursts, portals, repels, and full charges. However, that weakness is a double-edged sword in disguise because on the flip side this team is extremely strong when they are in the lead. This team knows how to play when they are ahead, and will attempt defend that lead to the last man with all their might.

Their opponents are seem to be more balanced on a mental level, although Dudgeon has repeatedly shown their incapability by making poor decisions, some of which end up escalating into something much worse over time, and it is going to be hard to break the mold after all these years. It is a fair to say that this team does have the upperhand in two of the three ships in the league. If their lineup is properly planned, and no unexpected issues arise, everything should slowly fall into place and this team, in theory, will the favorites to grab the eventual championship title.

It could be worth noting that both teams have a multitude of different play styles to choose from with their versatile lineups, ranging from the safe approach which revolves around defending and protecting the terrier to a more aggressive and control heavy style which attempts to apply pressure and control the flag room fights to gain those extra minutes. It is going to be interesting to see which style the teams are going to default into playing in the coming match.


BurN has the option to field two different players in the ship that is considered the cornerstone of each basing team, the Terrier.

Ogron has shown that he is one of the top terriers with his safe and conservative play while Cape would offer a more aggressive play style with a high risk to reward ratio. It is likely that they will go with the safer option as Cape has not been active for months. Ogron has a play style which has its obvious strengths and weaknesses, and it will be up to the rest of the team to make up for the weaknesses he brings with his play which should not be an issue. His abilities as a player often get overshadowed by others as he is not the type that will be in an aggressive position to make big plays for his team, but at the same time his team can count on him to not have stupid or risky deaths which can cost several minutes.

Their team have a slight edge in the most important ship in the league as their sharking combination has already been proven as one of the strongest in the game. However, that only holds true if their key player Mattey is playing on a level which is expected of him. He has not been very active this season, and only time will tell if he is one of those rare players that can return from periods of inactivity without losing some of their valor and skill over time. He will be paired together with Zidane who has over the years become the pillar of support for his team with his versatility in the ship. They also have the option to use Hulk, Hellkite, and PH as backups to their sharks, but for now that option should be taken out of consideration as it is extremely unlikely that we will see any changes in their lineup should everything to according to their game plan.

As far as the fighter ships go, this team is actually is in a disadvantageous position. While they do have an exceptionally strong lineup, they still fall a bit short and should get outmatched by their opponents in most aspects of the ship. This weakness is further amplified by the fact that their team is likely going to be playing defensive end for most of the match which further cripples some of their players ability to make plays and space for their team.

The fighters that you will most likely see are Ease, Kess, Hellkite, Hulk,and M_M God, although their great depth means they also have options such as Diakka and Ogron to choose from to further complement their lineup if they wish to adapt to a slightly different play style. This lineup is quite balanced, and it is hard to pinpoint weaknesses as a team without going to an individual level.


As far asopponents go, using the same order as earlier, Dudgeon has the best terrier in their ranks.

Mikkiz is the type of a player that can single-handedly carry his team with the aggressive plays he makes, but unfortunately he does have problems with the quality of his connection at times which could prove to fatal for the title hopes of his team. Nonetheless, should he be able to play, his team will have an advantage in that ship and it will be even more advantageous should the game be close as the importance of player with the ability to make clutch plays larger the closer the game is to ending. In the unfortunate event of him not being able to play, his team will have to default into playing either Zizzo or Dreamwin whom are both good at what they do, but neither are on the same level as their star player.

They also have a lot of options to choose from when making their sharking pair. It is probable that they will default into fielding the combination that has played most of their games in the regular season and playoffs, and thus we will likely see Commodo and Porkjet leading the charge as the main pair. Both have been performing reasonably well this season with only few mistakes in their recent games, and they are the ones that got their team into the grand finals thus they deserve to play it out. Their team also have the option to add other players to the mix as both JAMAL and McVicar are strong and talented players in this league, although it is worth nothing that they are a greater asset to their team as spiders given the lack of depth which would result in them playing in a different ship.

As stated above, Dudgeon does have an advantage with their fighter ships. They players should be able to control the under in flag room fights, which is one of the most important aspects of the league, and they are also better when attempting to hold and break the cram on an individual level. However, given the history of this team, you will likely see this team to field a non-optimal lineup in their first round match and that could potentially put their team in a poor position for the series.

You should expect at least Stayon, JAMAL,and Megaman89 to be in the starting lineup, but the rest will be up the captains to decide. Their lineup would feel more complete with McVicar and Dreamwin taking the remaining starter positions, but should history repeat itself, they will add Zizzo -- their sixth or seventh strongest spider -- to replace McVicar in the first round. They might even consider adding omega red, who has played a good amount of games this season and performed reasonably well, but his chances of playing seem to be rather slim this time around.



If everything goes as planned, Dudgeon will likely lose their first match, but should be able to bounce back and claim the title with three close matches.

[ogron]

Claus's take:


Fierce will take on Burn's core for the third time in four years, as Fierce looks to complete the first threepeat in TWLD since Siege accomplished the feat in Season's 3, 4, and 5. This mark's Fierce's fifth Finals appearance in a row, having only lost TWL 17 to Pandora.

Apok/Deez Nuts and Ease have the best modern rivalry in TWLD going, with Thunder and Fierce's cores having won the majority of the warbird titles since Season 9.

TWLD Champions:

Season 8: -Final-
Season 9: Sk8
Season 10: Syndicate
Season 11: Stray*
Season 12: Thunder
Season 13: Thunder
Season 14: Fierce
Season 15: Sweet
Season 16: Fierce
Season 17: Pandora
Season 18: Fierce
Season 19: Fierce
Season 20: Burn/Fierce

*Deez only

Apok, Deez Nuts, Lasenza, and Skepsis all return from last year, with Welt being substituted for Vash, Last Standing, and Geio. From what I've seen thus far this year, I think the first four players are fixed, and Vash, who has played quite well, will get first crack at starting in the 5th spot, with Last Standing next man up. I'd be surprised to see them use Geio.

Ease, Raazi, and Best have been outstanding all year, and will likely start alongside Weak and Mythril. Racka's return has given Burn additional depth and options after a month-long absence, while baser Ogron filled in most of the season, Weak's fantastic play in the Semi-Finals put him back on the bench where he belongs. I don't think we'll see anyone outside of Racka getting playtime against Fierce.

I've always thought Season 17 was a huge upset. Pandora beat Fierce with Ease and Mythril carrying the team on their back, with a rusty Geisha, and two basers in Spezza and Cape. Ease went 15-9 and Mythril went 16-9, and no one else on their team even went positive in their Round 3 win.

I think Burn's team this year is the strongest competition Fierce has had in the past five Finals. Raazi, Weak, and Racka present the most help they've had in warbird in years -- Ease and Myth don't have to put up 30 kills to win a round.

That said, it's hard to not think Fierce are still the favorites, having won three of the last four titles, and their core of Apok, Deez Nuts, Lasenza, and Skepsis, with good depth at the 5.

Deez Nuts is probably the best warbird in the history of the game, top 2 or 3 at worst. They play the only league where communication is a big advantage, and using ventrilo makes their stray game a real threat. If Best dies out early, any 5v4 advantage will be devastating.

Fierce does not look anywhere near as invincible as they have in the past, and don't seem to practice nearly as much, so this is definitely the best chance anyone has had of dethroning the king in years. They're still the champs, they're still insanely stacked, and they're chasing history going for a threepeat, so look for this to be one of the best TWLD Finals in recent memory.

Good luck to both teams!


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Turban's take:

TWLD was widely regarded as the most competitive league this zone had to offer, but over the years the prestige of this league deteriorated as the other two leagues have gained popularity among our players.

We will once again see familiar faces in the grand finals as Fierce and Burn are jousting against each other for the fourth time in the past seven seasons with Fierce having the upper hand with their two victories.


Fierce is going to be the crowd favorite and it the team we can expect to win.

This team has an excellent chance to further solidify their position as the one of the greatest squads to play ever play in the league as they look to defend their title for their third consecutive time in a row. The main core has remained mostly the same for the past six seasons, and that has over time became their greatest strength with their team chemistry being at admirable levels. Their opponents do have a couple of former players such as RacKa and Weak in their ranks, but that should considered as long-forgotten history as they have not been members of the team in a long time.

You should expect a strong outing by this team with Deez Nuts, Apok, Skepsis, LaSenza, and Vash being the strongest players this season. These are the players we are likely going to see in their starting lineup, although they do have other strong players such as Last Standing, Geio, and even Welt should they go down that path, as options if someone is underperforming. This team has relied on their ability to single out players by playing as a cohesive unit while simply outclassing their opponents with their excellent, coordinated long range play. It is a play style that is hard to punish when it gets rolling, and thus you should expect this team to be in a commanding position from the get-go as they wish to dictate the pace of the game.

They have one of the best players in their starting lineup with Deez Nuts being the most notable one. He has the quality to turn the game around, and is one of the players we definitely recommend spectating in this game. The rest of their lineup is strong with no notable weaknesses as their play styles are a good match.

Despite the fact that there is no real weakness in their starting lineup, this team does have substitutes that can easily be taken advantage of should the opportunity arise. It is easier said than done, but if BurN can force their opponents to substitute in a statistically weaker player that could be their chance to strike.


As the challengers, BurN is actually looking very strong, and for once they have more than two to three players capable of carrying a match with several superstar players.

Their lineup is more-or-less already set with Ease, Raazi, and Weak being the players you can rely to perform on any given day, and Best and Mythril are likely taking the remaining two starter positions. However, the latter two have had their shaky periods this season with early eliminations or otherwise poor performances that have cost their team the game. As substitutes and other starter candidates, this team has several options to choose from with players such as RacKa and Weaver, both of whom are accomplished star players, and even Ogron who has played rather well against some of the stronger teams and is looking to get his chance to play.

In terms of player quality, this team is the better one, but unfortunately they are not as cohesive as a team thus that individual advantage is completely nullified. Ease and Mythril have been in the past years some of the most dominant players in the league, and RacKa, despite his recent inactivity, as always been a threat with his aggressive play style.

Unfortunately their two likely starters are also their weakest links. Best has the quality to drop a large amount of kills, but he is usually the player that will get eliminated first with his greedy and overconfident plays. Mythril has been rather lackluster this year, and only time will tell whether he can bounce back from his slump.


It is hard to tell which team is going to be the one lifting the trophy at the end of the day, but should Fierce show up with their usual play style and play within their strengths then they will have the edge.

Good luck to both teams, and may the better team win!

[ogron]

Quick note:


Turban will be editing in his thoughts on the TWL Finals later today or tomorrow, so if you read this early, be sure to check back later for his take on the Finals!

[Turban]

I will chime in opinions about the matches in a couple of hours from hopefully an unbiased point of view. I feel knowledgeable enough to add some additional insight about both of the teams, and perhaps even will try to pinpoint the weaknesses and strengths of each team.

Alas, we should have a great final weekend in the league.

9:08 AM EST EDIT -- I'm working on the TWLJ one right now. It should be up soon.

[Turban]

done with javelin one, will try to do basing later today or tomorrow if people are interested in it.

[Tiny]

1. Fantastic writing, fucking loved the analysis and time you guys spent on this. TY for making my Wednesday morning which is rather boring..

2.

but he is not someone you can fully rely on in big games like this one.

Rude

3. Ty so much for this all season. Made TWL seem better than it probably really was.

[Stayon]

Good reads.

And just to drop this. Flowa Powa

https://www.facebook.com/theraverbib...1297656027123/

[ogron]

"but he is not someone you can fully rely on in big games like this one" -claushouse
Rude

LOL Tiny? That was Turban's analysis, can you not quote me... my Preview notes are pretty neutral and focus more on the history and potential lineups. I wasn't really happy with my analysis as it's pretty bland since I'm on Burn, I was going to delete it but I liked the fancy graphics I made so I figured I'd leave it up and ask Turban if he could provide a better, outside look at it with more teeth and higher skew towards picking favorites (For example, I know he favors Fierce in TWLD -- I'm obviously biased and believe our warbirds are going to win.)

I didn't provide much except some graphics and historical context, so Turban's writing should be the real meat of this post.

[Rule]

No disrespect meant to the percentage of players I respect on each squad here but read a few lines here then got very bored. After all it’s about the same 3 squads and the same boring and in most case cliquey players - good ones, hanger ons, hoppers, losers - that have stacked the past X amount of seasons. Gotta acknowledge the effort the writers of this post made - as its positive in comparison to past years when nothing was written. That said reading this is like watching a bunch of idiots pat each other on the back. The people replying to the threads are people on the squads - the rest of TW is generally indifferent. By and large Clausehouse opinion mean jack to me, I consider him a big time douche, and a detriment to the competitiveness of the leagues. (yes guys let’s celebrate that the same 2 or 3 cores of players have never branched out, built a new squad or created new rivalries - that we run and have run for a long time with an outdated and flawed league system - that rewards stacking/matched with a rapidly declining player base which loses more interest each year - lets potentially say goodbye to squad contributors like Iron Survivor who are tired of running squads in a league which is set up for them to compete but never win ) Turban I have some respect for. It will be good to see the leagues end on Sunday and time to move on with the knowledge that TW won't be changing any time soon - that if and when the leagues return it will be the usual status quo. 200 ppl logged in all of TW during semi finals, maybe next year we can do 100. Better yet - maybe everyone should double squad!!!! (it seems like such a popular idea on boards - we might as well all play aliased too!!)- Then we will have more active TWD squad’s right?? It is what it is. Go javduel! Or better yet go outside.

P.S. This may be perceived as a very negative post, I don't see it like that though nor is it my intention - see it as a more semi-accurate assessment (after all there has been some positive moments in league this year/the people who have run the leagues, hosted the games, contributed all deserve props) of the current status of leagues and am using it to point out that change is needed - but it is highly unlikely to happen.
- Rule

[Crescent Seal]

lol honestly, it was pretty obvious who would be in the finals for each league. let these losers stack and play each other for e-glory. for once we saw a high level player like Ease branch out but we all know how that ended. this game has no competitive future if people refuse to change. anyways, thanks for the HoNs and TWL writeups.

[Rule]

TWL Competitiveness: The real state of the leagues.

Current list of all active squads

TWL Medal Count (total number of TWL medals) – Squad by Squad breakdown based on individual player medals added collectively (recorded on twd rosters)
Burn – 103 medals (aka Thunder refer to clausehouse above post for medal count – lost count)
Dudgeon – 84 medals (aka Dice – refer to clausehouse above post for medal count – lost count)
Fierce – 72 medals (3 TWLD titles)
Cobra – 34 medals (0 titles earned in any league)
Lego – 36 medals (0 titles earned in any league)
Potenza – 31 medals(0 titles earned in any league)
Juans – 10 medals (0 titles earned in any league)
Vikings – 9 medals (0 titles earned in any league)
Paladen – 5 medals(0 titles earned in any league)
You2be – 0 Medals (0 titles earned in any league)
24/7 BD – 0 medals (0 titles earned in any league)

[Fork]

Some players play twl knowing the squad will never win twl or get close... But you can still have fun being the underdog squad\ see if you can cause a shock win against a relatively good team. I guess it comes to this though.. A large amount of players really want to win twl and to do that you have to join a stacked squad- squads outside these stacked squads have pretty much no chance. Everyone just has to deal with this and enjoy what population we have left until game does fade away.

[MHz]

Great read & analysis.

Rule, you hang around in javduel for an hour every other week and cry when you're not in the TWLJ finals. Cres, Potenza had a great shot at a title if your players had bothered to turn up. Stacking is not the issue, apathy is.