So a few weeks ago now Inducers was created as a sort of very shallow good basing squad (if we had 8 it wud actually be gud) that was to help noobies get interested in base and twd. It started out pretty well and I believe could have continued to do so if the captains had no lives. However that is not the case.
The pub players were BY FAR most interested in base, not even close with wb/jav. their 2nd favorite is FD. But I think a large part of the reason they were most interested in base is because we were at least semi-careful to have a couple/few vets playing with them. We were lucky to have DOWNFALL as a shark and he was active and we got porkjet later and that would help alot. if we did not have a shark to play in the game we would obviously just get completely demoralized and the caps didn't really think this was a good idea. Other squads were quite nice to us and played decent not crazy lines so we didnt get blown out that often. Anyways now it seems that DOWNFALL has gone somewhere and Pavement has responsibilities as well so its just me/jerome/porkjet. I dunno if Porkjet really wants to play. Sometimes I feel like I could challenge bd but I don't because the line would be so bad. You cant really get above 8 minutes if we r playing with pub ter pub shark and 2 pub spiders. Its just too much. So now myself and porkjet kinda just sit on chat not adding anything to the scene and the bd scene is the worst ever. I feel bad and I don't know what to do, Dice needs a shark for twl, cobra/force could use some help. the only team that doesn't need anything is Thunder, and I don't think thunder is stacked, they just have a set lineup that is great and a shitload of servicable spiders.
Me/Hail/Iza I am 99% sure are going to leave inducers, therefore dissolving it, I don't really know if I should feel bad about it, we cant do anything with this setup.
With that said there are active enough noobies on this squad who want to play base and BLACKLIVESMATTER could be a great spider I think and others could learn as well but you just cant train a basing squad in an environment where they are going to get raped nonstop. It won't have a positive effect, and some of these pubbers have relationships with eachother which was part of what made the squad more fun, at least at the start haha. Medvac/Blindtal/Mr subspace are qutie good friends. They probably would want to be on a squad together.. there has to be a way to train what we have while not having nonstop hugely imbalanced games.
Perhaps this is the wrong section, because this is more likely a twd issue, but the reason inducers will most likely dissolve is twl, theres no point wasting porkjet and (if downfall is alive???) on a squad that doesnt twd because the veterans cant be active enough to carry. Sharks are an endangered species and need to be on competitive teams for twl to have any validity.
What I think is that there needs to be 2-4 noobie squads in which a ton of veterans are allowed to double squad on. NOT 1-10 vets. A LOT of vets. Having a squad identity gets pubbers more hyped than go base and they DO want to play. But its not at all feasible to expect a pub squad to ever succeed with a 30 roster limit and 10 veterans when what they want to play is base (for the most part).
Lastly to what can be done, this has been discussed alot and I don't understand why nothings been done, instead its been made worse by having 30 roster limit which just makes people recruit less. I wouldn't mind inducers staying around and playing with them or trying to help them but I cant double squad so I have to choose and I'm not going to stay if its like this. Its just stupid. Double squadding would OBVIOUSLY help alot and I think is the answer, larger twd roster limits would help but not as much as double squadding.
I just thought I would share whats been going on through my eyes and hopefully get an idea of what others think we should've done differently of if this was doomed from the start because trench wars is dieing out faster than before.
Something has to be done. DONE. DONE. DONE. NOT DISCUSSED AND PUT OFF, FINISHED.
I havn't spoken to Jerome/Porkjet before writing this which is sort of dumb but I am impatient and havn't been able to get a hold of them, so sry to PJ/Jerome if you're insulted.
Barring PJ/Jerome having different ideas or DF/Pavement reviving I am done trying when the end result is actually killing rather than helping twd.
If squads are wanting pubbers who are willing to play/learn about base they can contact me and maybe we can get people onto squads that are a good fit for them.
The pub players were BY FAR most interested in base, not even close with wb/jav. their 2nd favorite is FD. But I think a large part of the reason they were most interested in base is because we were at least semi-careful to have a couple/few vets playing with them. We were lucky to have DOWNFALL as a shark and he was active and we got porkjet later and that would help alot. if we did not have a shark to play in the game we would obviously just get completely demoralized and the caps didn't really think this was a good idea. Other squads were quite nice to us and played decent not crazy lines so we didnt get blown out that often. Anyways now it seems that DOWNFALL has gone somewhere and Pavement has responsibilities as well so its just me/jerome/porkjet. I dunno if Porkjet really wants to play. Sometimes I feel like I could challenge bd but I don't because the line would be so bad. You cant really get above 8 minutes if we r playing with pub ter pub shark and 2 pub spiders. Its just too much. So now myself and porkjet kinda just sit on chat not adding anything to the scene and the bd scene is the worst ever. I feel bad and I don't know what to do, Dice needs a shark for twl, cobra/force could use some help. the only team that doesn't need anything is Thunder, and I don't think thunder is stacked, they just have a set lineup that is great and a shitload of servicable spiders.
Me/Hail/Iza I am 99% sure are going to leave inducers, therefore dissolving it, I don't really know if I should feel bad about it, we cant do anything with this setup.
With that said there are active enough noobies on this squad who want to play base and BLACKLIVESMATTER could be a great spider I think and others could learn as well but you just cant train a basing squad in an environment where they are going to get raped nonstop. It won't have a positive effect, and some of these pubbers have relationships with eachother which was part of what made the squad more fun, at least at the start haha. Medvac/Blindtal/Mr subspace are qutie good friends. They probably would want to be on a squad together.. there has to be a way to train what we have while not having nonstop hugely imbalanced games.
Perhaps this is the wrong section, because this is more likely a twd issue, but the reason inducers will most likely dissolve is twl, theres no point wasting porkjet and (if downfall is alive???) on a squad that doesnt twd because the veterans cant be active enough to carry. Sharks are an endangered species and need to be on competitive teams for twl to have any validity.
What I think is that there needs to be 2-4 noobie squads in which a ton of veterans are allowed to double squad on. NOT 1-10 vets. A LOT of vets. Having a squad identity gets pubbers more hyped than go base and they DO want to play. But its not at all feasible to expect a pub squad to ever succeed with a 30 roster limit and 10 veterans when what they want to play is base (for the most part).
Lastly to what can be done, this has been discussed alot and I don't understand why nothings been done, instead its been made worse by having 30 roster limit which just makes people recruit less. I wouldn't mind inducers staying around and playing with them or trying to help them but I cant double squad so I have to choose and I'm not going to stay if its like this. Its just stupid. Double squadding would OBVIOUSLY help alot and I think is the answer, larger twd roster limits would help but not as much as double squadding.
I just thought I would share whats been going on through my eyes and hopefully get an idea of what others think we should've done differently of if this was doomed from the start because trench wars is dieing out faster than before.
Something has to be done. DONE. DONE. DONE. NOT DISCUSSED AND PUT OFF, FINISHED.
I havn't spoken to Jerome/Porkjet before writing this which is sort of dumb but I am impatient and havn't been able to get a hold of them, so sry to PJ/Jerome if you're insulted.
Barring PJ/Jerome having different ideas or DF/Pavement reviving I am done trying when the end result is actually killing rather than helping twd.
If squads are wanting pubbers who are willing to play/learn about base they can contact me and maybe we can get people onto squads that are a good fit for them.
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