Possible TWL(B) Structure Next Season

[Facetious]

Originally posted by Fit of Rage
(Just look at whiterabbits!).

wr got kind of fucked by their schedule, is my point

[Epinephrine]

Originally posted by Facetious
Also, how did the ranking mean that the better squads got harder schedules and the worse squads got easier schedules? Elusive, by not having to play against themselves, have an easier schedule against the shitty squads in their conference, who do have to play them.

The scheduling was set in a way that teams fought similarily ranked teams more during the cross-conference games.

For more info you can read the thread that I started before the season explaining it all.

-Epi

[CrvenBan]

If you can't make a season totally fair by letting all squads (all 16 in one division) play eachother once, or you can't cut down on number of squads playing in twlb (from 16 to 10-12) there is pretty much one solution that will alowe you to keep big format (16+ squads), play up to 10 games/season and keep it all fair letting squads compete among ones that are of similar level, skill-wise.

You call it tier, call it conference, but divide squads in 2 groups, and put the "better ones" in 1 group and "less good ones" in the other. Then you decide on numbers going to playoffs (I'm thinking 5+3 would be fine), which means that squads ranked 1-5 from group 1 and 1-3 from group 2 get to go on to playoff.

Eight squads that reach playoff stage are going to be in group 1 (or tier 1) next season by default (3 best squads from group 2 get promoted up on the account of 3 squads that didn't make it to playoffs).

You can even go one step further on this and decide that you will count this seasons results when creating conferences for next season (it gotta start somewhere), which would give us a format of:

Conference 1: Disoblige, Pallies, Light, Rampage, Spastic, Mambo, whiterabbits and Elusive
Conference 2: Anti-Scrub, Melee, Burning rose, War angels, Cripples, No surrender, British squad and Solstice


Looks fine to me.

[Escalate]

NEW PROPOSAL, TELL ME WHAT U THINK

<moved to separate thread because i intend it for all leagues not just twlb.>

[Cig Smoke]

Crven thats a good idea..u could do that this season take the playoff teams and next season make them the better teams or even split them up so they are in different conferences to even them out...but the fact remains squads are gonna die (alot of playoff squads) bc they were made to win a TWL..so once they win one they die or once they figure out they cant last a whole season and win they die

[Sufficient]

Originally posted by CrvenBan
If you can't make a season totally fair by letting all squads (all 16 in one division) play eachother once, or you can't cut down on number of squads playing in twlb (from 16 to 10-12) there is pretty much one solution that will alowe you to keep big format (16+ squads), play up to 10 games/season and keep it all fair letting squads compete among ones that are of similar level, skill-wise.

You call it tier, call it conference, but divide squads in 2 groups, and put the "better ones" in 1 group and "less good ones" in the other. Then you decide on numbers going to playoffs (I'm thinking 5+3 would be fine), which means that squads ranked 1-5 from group 1 and 1-3 from group 2 get to go on to playoff.

Eight squads that reach playoff stage are going to be in group 1 (or tier 1) next season by default (3 best squads from group 2 get promoted up on the account of 3 squads that didn't make it to playoffs).

You can even go one step further on this and decide that you will count this seasons results when creating conferences for next season (it gotta start somewhere), which would give us a format of:

Conference 1: Disoblige, Pallies, Light, Rampage, Spastic, Mambo, whiterabbits and Elusive
Conference 2: Anti-Scrub, Melee, Burning rose, War angels, Cripples, No surrender, British squad and Solstice


Looks fine to me.

Looks like a good idea. What do you propose for the roster limit and roster lock?

[Verthanthi]

Originally posted by CrvenBan
You call it tier, call it conference, but divide squads in 2 groups, and put the "better ones" in 1 group and "less good ones" in the other. Then you decide on numbers going to playoffs (I'm thinking 5+3 would be fine), which means that squads ranked 1-5 from group 1 and 1-3 from group 2 get to go on to playoff.

Conference 1: Disoblige, Pallies, Light, Rampage, Spastic, Mambo, whiterabbits and Elusive
Conference 2: Anti-Scrub, Melee, Burning rose, War angels, Cripples, No surrender, British squad and Solstice

The best of conference 2 would have a much easier time than the worst of conference 1.

[Sirius]

The reason Twlb was accepted by Solstice was because Escalate proposed we start a basing team on Solstice, about 2 months ago or so (I don't remember for sure, and I could care less about when it was). So he became in charge of all basing, and hired a basing crew. Since Escalate has always emphasized his thirst for basing, and he made a basing team for the sole purpose of basing, I figured it to only be logical that he would want to take a step further and persue basing in a more competitive field.

[Facetious]

I think this schedule is a decent solution:

1 plays 2,4,5,7. 10,12, 14,16
2 plays 1,3, 6,8, 9,11, 13,15
3 plays 2,4, 5,7, 10,12, 14,16
4 plays 1,3, 6,8, 9,11, 13,15
5 plays 1,3, 6,7, 10,12, 13,14
6 plays 2,4, 5,8, 11,12, 14,15
7 plays 1,3, 5,8, 9,11, 13,16
8 plays 2,4, 6,7, 9,10, 15,16
9 plays 2,4, 7,8, 10,11, 13,14
10 plays 1,3, 5,8, 11,12, 14,15
11 plays 2,4, 6,7, 10,13, 15,16
12 plays 1,3, 5,6, 9,12, 13,16
13 plays 2,4, 5,7, 9,12, 14,15
14 plays 1,3, 5,6, 9,10, 13,16
15 plays 2,4, 6,8, 10,11, 13,16
16 plays 1,3, 7,8, 11,12,14,15

Each squad plays two squads from the best four squads, two squads from squads 5-8, two squads from 9-12, and two from 13-16. It doesn't create (so much, at least, some squads do end up with similar schedules) the faux-conferences that Sufficient's plan does. You could also make it so that each team plays all other teams in their group of four, for a nine-week season, or add a couple of preseason weeks wherein squads that were rivals could meet up. I like it.

[PhaTz]

Too much devotion in a game.

11 squads
10 weeks
8 team playoffs
3 weeks p.o.
BAM
champion rise, gg all
See y'all next season

[Material Girl]

Originally posted by PhaTz
Too much devotion in a game.

11 squads
10 weeks
8 team playoffs
3 weeks p.o.
BAM
pallies rise, gg all
See y'all next season

That is just sooo funny because it's so basic, no committies(sp!), no problems with gossips!!! :eek:

[Luckily Yours]

NO CRVEN thats not a good idea , if we split into a best teams/worst teams tiers than dont mix them up in playoffs , it would just end up that 2 of the top tier teams would have an easy opponent ..... it would be alot more unfair than it already is

if u split in tiers each tier have its playoff and decide CHAMPION OF LOWER TIER , and CHAMPION OF HIGHER TIER

no more confusion needed ....

just keep conferences they are fine , if u get a tougher conference so wat? u cant predict how lesser squads will or wont do and if good squads will uphold the expectations

[Evul Fly]

Originally posted by Epinephrine
The scheduling was set in a way that teams fought similarily ranked teams more during the cross-conference games.

For more info you can read the thread that I started before the season explaining it all.

-Epi

Really?

we were ranked 6th and had to play evil disos from other conf!

[CrvenBan]

Originally posted by Verthanthi
The best of conference 2 would have a much easier time than the worst of conference 1.

That is true, however, everyone would probably want to play with the big boys, where the action is better, and then being relegated to other group is sort of small punishment for not playing well in the season.

Originally posted by Luckily Yours
NO CRVEN thats not a good idea , if we split into a best teams/worst teams tiers than dont mix them up in playoffs , it would just end up that 2 of the top tier teams would have an easy opponent ..... it would be alot more unfair than it already is

Not really, if you make seeding for playoffs such that ranked #1-5 (tier 1) in league is seeded 1-5 in playoffs and ranked #1-3 (in tier 2) is seeded 6-8 in playoffs then by the round 2 of playoffs 4 really good teams will remain in game.

Originally posted by Luckily Yours
if u get a tougher conference so wat? u cant predict how lesser squads will or wont do and if good squads will uphold the expectations

That's one of the reasons this system would be implemented for. Just look at Diso games/conference this season, and honestly tell me how many teams had a decent shot at beating us (in our conference). Rampage was the only true treath, with A-S and Elusive on a GOOD day as distant second (I'm not trying to put down other squads it's just my own views).
So, for us, it was sort of dissapointment that we were gonna miss out on all the big games and possibly not even play some of the best basing squads of today. Where is fun in that ?
And second thing, do you think that squads like Brits or NS would rather play someone like Pallies and Light or play some squads that they actually can compete against ?

If you do have 2 tiers, any team will have a guarntee of playing 7 teams with fairly similar qualities as themselves.

[Facetious]

Originally posted by PhaTz
Too much devotion in a game.

11 squads
10 weeks
8 team playoffs
3 weeks p.o.
BAM
champion rise, gg all
See y'all next season

Give me my squad back.