TWLB idea

[Zerzera]

I think this idea sucks and not only because I am drunk, but because it's gay...

[Kim]

I think we should change ALL THE MAPS in the craziest ways possible. At least that way we'll know that basers would get screwd the most out of the 3.

[Sleepy Weasel]

With this flagroom entrance teams with a jav have an adventage, it can bomb at A while enemy team sits at B, also the terrier would probably not be able to burst down as easily as it does with the map we got now.

why would they sit at B?

[Cig Smoke]

Agreed, i think they'd all sit where they do now and just use B as more defence. Plus i imagine that them extra bars could cause some problems trying to enter, or getting caught in there when a shark reps u back.

[Jeansi]

Another way, just testing with the "change as little as possible" style:



I removed the blocks circled with red. This would force the defending terr to move one notch towards the center, thus being exposed to direct fire. If he has to back out even a little it's easier to rep the terr out of the cram.

Thought about making the entrance a little higher (green circles) but that doesn't work because the entrance becomes too small then.

Blue circles: I moved the whole thing one tile down, so that it's easier for the attacking team to get into a position out of which they cannot be repped very easily.

result:


The entrance is a little wide now but that shouldn't be too hard to fix.

[Sumpson]

why would they sit at B?

Because they get repped there

[Mayo Inc.]

this is a good idea, epi thought of it before

[pv=nrt]

I still like lining more than cram. Lining makes for more exciting games methinks

[Vykromond]

I still like lining more than cram. Lining makes for more exciting games methinks

that's a fact, jack

[Sumpson]

I don't like lining but meybe that's because I play the spider..

[pv=nrt]

chump i can still spider better than most. sharking and spidering are more exciting in line still methinks. (for some reiteration)

[Cig Smoke]

Well it all depends on ur outlook on basing. If u only got into basing recently when lining wsa on the out then u'll naturly like cram more bc its what u learned to do 1st. FOr ppl like us pv who grew up on lining then went to cram we like line more bc the games were always more interesting that way. More flagroom fights, more about possiting with terrs, sharks had to learn to use a repel as a weapon instead of just repeling and timing with a partner. But u can say the Cram is just as interesting for a spider bc u can rack up huge amounts of kills in a small amount of time in it.

Basing just naturly evolved into the cram. Last season it hit us like a sack of rocks, and no one knwe how to break it efficiently. Now this season/off-season i see alot more crams being broken alot faster then they were a year or so ago. Its just a matter of time till someone figures the perfect crambreaker.

[pv=nrt]

The perfect cram breaker is the stealth cloak weasel with lvl 3 bombs.

[Cig Smoke]

rofl! Although that little cloaker is very effective at times if the rite person is using it. ALthough i doubt anyone would use that in TWL bc the same reason ppl dont use a jav, or a wb.

[Ewan]

I'm sure most of you are unaware of this:

Subspace and all current map editors only support 190 tiles, that's tiles 1 - 190. Continuum, however, supports 255 tiles (1 - 255). Some of the 191 - 255 tiles have interesting properties.
(see here for info)

The tile 191 attracts my attention for this problem. You can fly through it, but shots hit it like any other wall so it could possibly be implemented to help encourage lining over cramming.

If a line of these tiles was placed across the entrance, the defending team would be forced to either cram much lower or line. This would make a cram which is easier to break but the defending team could use this "wall" to it's advantage, maybe the terr hides behind it while everyone else pushes out. This could, of course, be the end of cramming which some people (including me) don't want to see. I want to see a base where both cramming and lining (and maybe other, new, strategies) are all pretty even, with the squad being the factor that makes them better or worse.

This is only a quick idea, but I'm sure with a little thought a much better one can be thought out using these tiles.

NOTE: These tiles can only be placed in a map by using a hex-editor or by using this tile-replacer (Made by Overburn). Once you've placed in the tiles, the map cannot be opened in SSME, but will work fine in continuum.

I've also modified the FR using regular tiles which at some point I will stick on this thread for your feedback.

~Ewan