TSL Season 2 Improvements Currently In The Works

[Rab]

We have some decent jav data. Jav and wb is basically the same thing.
Really need some base data for testing.

[Rab]

We need test data, play test games whenever you can plz.

[ogron]

start date depends on qan.

not sure we'll be ready in time for september 3, which was the target date. i think september 10 would be fine also, though.

we've been in communication through august, and i sent him all the formulas and updated basing matchmaking parameters, among other things. he's in the process of coding and implementing those and putting up a rudimentary website to automatically track $ values in every league.

[Jones]

it was me posting on zeebus name

[paradise!]

oh
yes...
i was definitely trolling...


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stop trolling please....we are having a real, serious discussion here. Take your dookie, troll ideas to the dumpster.

[Zeebu]

oh
yes...
i was definitely trolling...


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[Rab]

We need to get some test games played this weekend, show up and play.

[Crescent Seal]

can you change it so instead of a running total of each game through the season it instead pulls your best 20 games or so? that way if you get at least 20 games in you are at the same level as everyone else. you get a game better than one in your 20, it boots the weakest one out. that way you can nix the diminishing returns aspect and instead just keep a running tally of the 20 best games youve played. some thought into the mixed division of basing, but i think this would give a little more fair aspect to the folks who cant play as often.

[zidane]

Are you trolling zeebu cause that's exactly what happened this season...

Also dreamwin change your sig to 2nd

[Zeebu]

also if a game doesnt make it into your top 20, it doesnt hurt your rating

[Zeebu]

can you change it so instead of a running total of each game through the season it instead pulls your best 20 games or so? that way if you get at least 20 games in you are at the same level as everyone else. you get a game better than one in your 20, it boots the weakest one out. that way you can nix the diminishing returns aspect and instead just keep a running tally of the 20 best games youve played. some thought into the mixed division of basing, but i think this would give a little more fair aspect to the folks who cant play as often.

[skullspace]

when start ?

[Dreamwin]

Yes let's start the TSL pre-season now. Can't wait to drop some European scum thinking they will make playoffs with more timeslots.

Thanks to the new timeslots, I will be 3-league all-star in the following season.

Also, I will be returning to cap Terrorist in TWDT when the times comes.

PS. Keep up the good work.

[Vys]

I'm 100% against any change that results in reduced activity, even if it would make the TSL All-Stars slightly more accurate. Aside from Spider, where only 5 top-tier players participated, the majority of the Finals slots went to players generally considered the best players in that ship.

I think pretty much every top tier player who played over 20 games made it, while the majority of players with 40-50-60-70 games who shouldn't qualify didn't, so the system is already doing a pretty good job.

Would taking averages and measuring consistency improve the accuracy?

Yes.

Would it do more damage overall to activity and toxicity?

Definitely.

Let's also keep in mind everyone in TSLD and TSLJ qualified with over 10 KPG and excellent overall averages, with the exception of Zidane in warbird. So players at the top are already consistent and posting good averages.

Calculating averages would hurt activity. Players would sit on their averages and worry about it dropping if they play. It would increase toxicity and anger about what teammates you get, and any negative result. When every single game counts, it means every bad team and poor result damage your chances, which is not a good look when the bots aren't perfect at randomizing teams. Having some games not matter to your success is important in keeping players motivated and happy.

Someone suggested adding +5$ bonus to each of your first 30 games.

It's a pretty decent idea that I'm not against, that could help players who don't have as many games, without hurting activity too much, or resorting to averages.

Keep in mind we're expanding Euro timeslots to help our friends in the Western Hemisphere, which should help them complete more games.

The primary goal of TSL is activity, not an All-Star list that perfectly represents the best players.

Please try to keep that in mind when making suggestions. We already know Dreamwin is an elite javelin -- we don't need a TSLJ All-Star selection to figure that out.

What about my proposed time slots, bonus rounds. As we need to keep this league fair for all players across the world. Keeping it how it was last season in favour to you guys across the pond.

[Jessup]

I'll be hosting TSL "preseason" games when I can starting today until the true season begins. I'll not be the only one doing this but everyone keep an eye out for Zoners. We need to start testing out the bots and new system/changes that are being implemented this season. I'm happy to say it looks like base prefered adding system is being nixed to either first to do !play or averaging the number of games played and giving those who have less games preferances. Keep your eyes peeled!!